Blue Star Ltd Q2 FY2025 Concall Summary

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Key Takeaways


Room AC: The Engine and Its Limits

Thiagarajan: "The question I am not able to answer. Perhaps: A) the temperature conditions or the way the people are getting used to air conditioning in other ways... B) The prices have remained stable. C) Huge consumer finance options are available... And most importantly, the power consumption has been coming down, thanks to the Energy Saving Scheme."

Commercial Refrigeration: A One-Time Regulatory Bump

Thiagarajan: "Those are ephemeral in nature and there is nothing to worry about the overall growth prospects for Commercial Refrigeration."

Segment Performance and the Disclosure Debate

Thiagarajan: "I keep raising this in many forums that multinationals who are my competitors, I won't be able to get any information whatsoever, whereas they will be able to get every information that is disclosed by us."

International Business: Early, Small, and Uncertain

Thiagarajan: "The whole Trump administration, how they will view. It's a clear thing of 'Make in America', not even 'Make in Mexico' and how the industry there will proceed with. I can tell you that there are Chinese players, Japanese players, Korean players and compared to them we are very small. What is going to happen? We do not know."

Supply Chain, Working Capital, and the Inventory Bet


Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
FY25 revenue growth20% to 25% top-line growthFY25
FY25 operating margin8.5% to 9%FY25
Unitary Products revenue growth25% to 30% top-line growthFY25
Segment-I margin7% to 7.5%FY25
Segment-II margin8.5%FY25
Room AC market shareClose at ~14% (original 15% goal not reachable)FY25
Segment-III growth revivalGrowth expected to reviveQ4 FY25
Commercial Refrigeration normalizationRegulatory issues resolved, no problem going forwardFrom Q3 FY25 onward
Working capital normalizationNormalcy in balance sheetBy March 2025
MEP order book disclosureWill attempt to give distribution (infrastructure, commercial buildings, factories, data centers)Possibly next call

Key Metrics

MetricQ2 FY25
Revenue from operations₹2,275.96 cr, +20.4% YoY
EBITDA (excluding other income)₹149.31 cr, margin 6.6% vs 6.5% in Q2 FY24
PBT₹131.39 cr, +38.3% YoY
Net profit₹96.06 cr, +35.7% YoY
Gross margin26.5%, vs 24.8% in Q2 FY24
Carried-forward order book₹6,598.20 cr, +9.8% YoY; ₹5,697.63 cr as of Mar 31, 2024
Net cash position₹185.26 cr, vs ₹285.85 cr as of Sep 30, 2023
Segment I revenue₹1,428.42 cr, +32.6% YoY; segment result margin 8.3% vs 6.1% in Q2 FY24
Segment I order inflow₹1,899.06 cr, vs ₹1,764.82 cr in Q2 FY24
Segment II revenue₹767.00 cr, +5.1% YoY; segment result margin 7.0% vs 8.4% in Q2 FY24
Segment III revenue₹80.54 cr, -3.8% YoY; segment result margin 6.4% vs 14.6% in Q2 FY24
Room AC volume growth (Q2)27% YoY; revenue growth ~25%
Room AC volume growth (H1 FY25)Over 53% YoY; revenue growth ~45%
Room AC market share13.75%, maintained; original FY25 goal of 15% revised to ~14%
Room AC volume growth (October)~30%; revenue growth ~28%
Electro-Mechanical Projects carried-forward order book₹5,036.69 cr, +9.3% YoY
Capital employed₹2,550.28 cr, vs ₹2,069.62 cr as of Sep 30, 2023
Working capital invested in H1 FY25~₹300 cr, primarily for component stocking to ensure supply chain continuity
CAPEX and product development budget~₹300 cr to ₹400 cr per year
Combined Segment I + Segment II revenue growth (Q2)22% YoY; EBIT growth 36%; EBIT margin 7.9%
Combined Segment I + Segment II revenue growth (H1)26% YoY; EBIT growth 54%; EBIT margin 8.7%
Commercial Refrigeration market size₹4,000 cr; Blue Star market share ~30%
Room AC market size₹25,000 cr to ₹28,000 cr
Commercial Air Conditioning market size₹5,000 cr to ₹6,000 cr; addressable market ~₹4,500 cr; Blue Star market share ~25% to 30%
MEP order book: commercial buildings~20% of Electro-Mechanical Projects order book
MEP order book: infrastructure~35% of Electro-Mechanical Projects order book
Revenue growth guidance (FY25)20% to 25%; operating margin guidance 8.5% to 9%, maintained
Segment I margin guidance7% to 7.5%; Segment II margin guidance 8.5%, maintained
Projected CAGR20% till 2030; next year growth expectation 25% to 30%