Blue Star Ltd Q4 FY2025 Concall Summary

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Key Takeaways


The April Disconnect: Inventory, Sentiment and Weather

Thiagarajan: "I have not come across fortunately, two summers consecutively disappointing in my 45 years of career. So, therefore, I am of the view even May, June should bounce back is my view, let us see. I can be entirely wrong."

Commercial Refrigeration: The Drag That Is Turning

Thiagarajan: "Had it not been Commercial Refrigeration's de-growth, if it had been business as usual, our estimate is that our growth in revenue for FY25 would have been 500 basis points higher. The margin would have been higher by 50 basis points."

Segment Performance

SegmentTrendCommentary
Projects & Commercial AC (Seg-I)▲ Strong FY25Revenue grew 30.6% in Q4 and 27.2% for FY25; order book at Rs. 4,755 Cr; factories and data centers drove order inflow, while commercial real estate and infrastructure stayed muted.
Unitary Products (Seg-II)▲ Solid FY25, soft start FY26Revenue grew 14.7% in Q4 on a high base and 22.4% for FY25; margin improved to 8.4% from 7.8%. Room AC volume crossed 0.15 Cr units. April 2025 grew only 5% against a 25–30% internal target.
Commercial AC Systems▬ MixedMaintained market leadership with good growth in Healthcare, Hospitality and Education; Industrial and BFSI stayed muted; Government orders showed signs of revival.
Professional Electronics & Industrial Systems (Seg-III)▼ DeclinedRevenue de-grew 19.2% in Q4 and 7.7% for FY25; MedTech business lost revenue and profitability from regulatory headwinds; Industrial Solutions momentum was not enough to compensate.
International Business▼ UncertainDeveloped products for 3 OEMs in the US and Europe with commercial shipments begun, but volatile global trade policies caused a slowdown. Enquiry levels are higher in anticipation of a US–India trade deal and supply chain de-risking.

Margin Outlook: Investment-Heavy, Capped Upside

Thiagarajan: "The guidance for FY26, unless and until something dramatically changes remain, for Segment-I, 7.5%; and Segment-II, 8.5%. And we will attempt to take it to 9%, and that will be with a great difficulty, I think. And if the summer is not going to be that great, that 8.5% to 9% will be very difficult."

Supply Chain & Backward Integration


Exports: A Pipeline Stuck in Geopolitical Limbo

Thiagarajan: "So, as we speak, we have wait and watch whether US-India deal, when it will happen? US-China deal they are talking about, what will happen? And whether US or Europe, whether they will get into inflation? Or whether they will be into recession? A number of questions are being asked. So, to that extent it is a disappointment. There is uncertainty in the whole international exports landscape."

Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
Segment-I margin7.5%FY26
Segment-II margin8.5%, attempt to reach 9% "with great difficulty"FY26
Commercial Refrigeration recoveryAlready growing >25% in April 2025 after flat Q4Underway (April 2025 onward)
Summer demand bounceMay and June expected to bounce back based on weather forecasts and historical patternMay–June 2025
Copper localizationSignificant amount of material sourced from within India via Hindalco MOUFY26
Backward integration (ex-compressor)Everything except compressor India-based to a very large extentBy FY27
Export clarityMore clarity expected on US–India trade deal and supply chain de-riskingH2 FY26
R&D spendContinue at 1.5% to 2% of revenueOngoing
Market shareGrow faster than market; reach 15% Room AC share "quickly"No date
Compressor manufacturing evaluationDesigning own compressor in "primary school stage"; question arises if volumes reach 0.5 Cr+ unitsBy 2030

Key Metrics

MetricQ4 FY25
Revenue from operations₹4,018.96 cr, +20.8% YoY
EBITDA (excl. other income)₹279.40 cr, margin 7.0% vs 7.3% in Q4 FY24
PBT before exceptional items₹248.82 cr, +16.2% YoY; 6.2% of revenue vs 6.4% in Q4 FY24
Net profit (FY25 full year)₹591.2 cr, +42.7% YoY; 4.9% of revenue vs 4.3% in FY24
Dividend per share₹9, up from ₹7 in FY24
Segment-I revenue (EM Projects & Commercial AC)₹1,968.2 cr, +30.6% YoY
Segment-I margin7.6%, vs 7.5% in Q4 FY24
Segment-II revenue (Unitary Products)₹1,960.2 cr, +14.7% YoY (on a base of 34.8% growth in Q4 FY24)
Segment-II margin8.4%, vs 8.3% in Q4 FY24
Segment-III revenue (Professional Electronics)₹90.6 cr, -19.2% YoY
Carried forward order book₹6,263.4 cr, +9.9% YoY
Net cash position₹640.35 cr, vs ₹455.9 cr as of March 31, 2024
Room AC market shareClose to 14%, gained 100 bps in H2 FY25
Room AC sales volume (FY25 full year)Crossed 0.15 crore units
April 2025 primary and secondary sales growth~5%, vs internal target of 25-30%; industry declined 15-20%
Price increase implemented4-5% from April 1, 2025; 3-4% taken in January 2025
FY26 segment margin guidanceSegment-I: 7.5%; Segment-II: 8.5%, with an attempt to reach 9%