Cartrade Tech Ltd Q4 FY2022 Concall Summary

Key Takeaways

• Profitable growth in a flat industry: Consolidated revenue grew 28% YoY to ₹358 crores while the Indian auto market remained flat-to-declining over five years, making Cartrade one of the few cash-profitable internet companies growing both revenue and profit.
• Remarketing is the profit engine: The remarketing business delivered ~₹205 crores revenue with a 29% Adjusted EBITDA margin (including other income), while the consumer group hit its highest-ever quarterly revenue of ~₹36 crores in Q4.
• One-time ESOP charge masks underlying earnings: A ₹145 crores ESOP charge booked in FY22 will not recur in FY23, meaning reported profitability should mechanically improve next year.
• Organic traffic is the moat: 84% of ~3 crore monthly unique visitors come organically, keeping marketing costs structurally lower than competitors and allowing revenue growth without traffic growth.
• What to watch next quarter: Whether abSure scales from 47 to 120 outlets on plan, whether the car industry actually delivers double-digit growth in FY23, and how much of the ₹1,000 crores cash pile gets deployed into acquisitions.

Remarketing: The Core Business

• Scale and profitability: The remarketing segment generated ~₹205 crores in FY22 revenue with Adjusted EBITDA of ~₹60 crores, a 29% margin including other income. Q4 standalone Adjusted EBITDA was close to ₹20 crores at a 30% margin excluding other income.
• Volume vs value gap: Auction volumes grew 40% but revenue grew only 20% because ticket sizes were slightly lower and COVID drove a shift to pure online sales, which carry lower charges than phygital transactions, reducing the effective take rate per vehicle.
• India’s one market initiative: Simplified GST rules on used vehicles now enable cross-state bidding, so a vehicle in one state can be bid on by buyers anywhere in India. Management believes this creates a differentiated advantage and will help dominate the used vehicle industry.
• QoQ stability: Remarketing revenue was broadly similar Q3 to Q4. Management cautioned against reading too much into sequential comparisons given COVID distortions, though Q3 and Q4 are normally somewhat better than Q1 and Q2.
• Pilot discontinued: A small buy-and-sell inventory model tested under the auction umbrella will not be continued going forward.

Vinay Vinod Sanghi: "It gives me great pleasure to tell you that we have grown in spite of the tailwinds in the industry with supply constraints, with semiconductor issues, etc., the Company has grown by 28% and the Adjusted EBITDA has grown by about 25% as well."

Consumer Group: Traffic, Monetization and Margins

• Revenue milestone: The standalone consumer group (CarWale, CarTrade, BikeWale) achieved its highest-ever quarterly revenue of ~₹36 crores in Q4 and delivered 35% YoY growth for FY22, driven by lead monetization and advertising from car manufacturers and dealers.
• Organic traffic as structural advantage: 84% of ~3 crore monthly unique visitors arrive organically, which management attributes to brand affinity and leadership. This keeps marketing costs lower than competitors, who management assumes do not have this level of organic traffic.
• The real constraint is ad budgets, not audience: Management stated the limitation is not customer numbers but the amount manufacturers and dealers spend on digital. Revenue can grow rapidly without increasing traffic by capturing more of that digital budget through improved fill rates.
• Traffic stability: Monthly unique visitors held steady at ~3 crore, mirroring an auto industry that has been flat to degrown over five years. Organic traffic share fluctuated modestly from 88% to 81% sequentially, which management considers stable and not a concern.
• Standalone margin structure: All corporate overheads sit in the standalone accounts and are not allocated to the remarketing subsidiary (SAMIL), because SAMIL is not 100% owned. This depresses reported standalone margins.
• Standalone other expenses: Q4 run rate of ~₹8 crores, up from ~₹5 crores last year, driven by annual entries, post-listing expenses and normalized travel. Management said an average between the two is a realistic benchmark going forward, with hardly any growth expected.
• Marketing cost normalization: FY22 marketing costs returned to pre-COVID levels after an aberrant FY21 when the industry was shut for three months with no advertising. Management expects marketing spend to remain stable, with no need for significant increases.

Vinay Vinod Sanghi: "The limitation for us is not the number of customers, the limitation for us is the amount of money, manufacturers, dealers spend on digital. That is the limitation, so without increasing traffic we could rapidly grow our revenues."

Cost Structure and Margin Levers

• Manpower costs: Rose 25% YoY primarily because the prior year had very low or no increments during COVID, making FY22 a correction year for salaries. Product tech talent costs were also pressured by startup funding competition.
• One-time ESOP charge: A ₹145 crores charge was booked in FY22 and will not recur in FY23, providing a mechanical uplift to reported profitability next year.
• Operating leverage promise: Management stated that if revenues grow by x, profitability should grow by x times approximately 1.5, implying margin expansion as the top line scales.
• Standalone margin pressure: FY22 was a tough year for margins because the FY21 base had all-time-low costs: no travel, no increments, minimal marketing. The primary cost increase was product tech talent.

Vinay Vinod Sanghi: "As I said is this Rs. 145 crores was a onetime charge for FY22. We do not expect this to be in FY23, so I think that itself will tell you about the Company's performance going forward."

New Initiatives: abSure, Finance and Digital Journey

• CarWale abSure: Now operational across 47 outlets offering used cars with a warranty and money-back guarantee. Consumers can book online and get delivery. The plan is to grow to 120 outlets by end of FY23, adding another 75–80 outlets.
• No volume guidance: Management declined to provide average volume-per-store guidance for abSure, saying it is too early, and emphasized focus on franchisee profitability and store health instead.
• Finance marketplace launched: A digital finance marketplace enables consumers to get loans instantly online for new cars, used cars or new two-wheelers from multiple banks.
• One-click purchase: The company is building a fully digital vehicle purchase journey covering selection, booking, online loan approval and delivery, described as a one-click purchase experience.
• Alternate monetization not yet material: Financing, insurance and transaction income from the same customer base are future revenue sources but are not accruing today. Management noted these investments in digitization, online booking and instant finance have not matured enough yet.

Industry Context and Demand Outlook

• Five years of industry stagnation: Passenger vehicle sales in India were flat at ~0.3 crore units from FY17 to FY22. Two-wheeler sales degrew 10–15% from 1.7 crore to 1.35 crore units over the same period, hit by COVID, BS-6 norms and demonetization.
• FY23 growth hopes: Management is hopeful for double-digit growth in the car industry in FY23 and consistently for the next 3–5 years, and feels confident revenue growth levels will sustain if that materializes.
• Supply vs demand debate: Management is not confident that 5–7% more supply would materially change the demand picture, suggesting the gap between supply and demand may be minor and is being magnified in perception.
• Two-wheeler demand sluggish: Management noted consumer confusion around electric vs ICE engines is weighing on two-wheeler demand, which remains generally sluggish.
• Digital ad spend shift: Only 13–14% of OEM and dealer ad spend is digital today, per the DRHP. Management expects this to grow over the next 4–5 years, driving continued consumer business revenue growth.
• Revenue growth drivers: Growth is coming from both OEMs and dealers, with digital adoption increasing post-COVID. The dealer side looked more positive in the last quarter.

Vinay Vinod Sanghi: "I am not very confident that if we had 5% or 7% more supply, this would be the same situation. It may not be a large gap, it would just be a very minor gap, it is getting magnified and seen by all of us."

Capital Allocation and Competitive Position

• ₹1,000 crores cash for acquisitions: The company intends to use its cash pile to acquire or invest in companies providing adjacent products and services (auto finance, insurance, subscription, warranty, car servicing, accessories, spare parts) to its 3 crore monthly customers, creating synergy value.
• Organic traffic as competitive moat: Management believes competitors do not have the same level of organic traffic, which is why their marketing costs are much higher. Brand affinity and leadership are cited as the simple answer to the cost advantage.
• Traffic data discrepancy: An analyst noted third-party traffic data showing competitor visits higher than CarWale, despite Google Trends data in the presentation showing CarWale ahead. Management distinguished brand popularity from traffic visits and did not reconcile the specific discrepancy, noting some third parties rank CarWale number one and competitors have multiple kinds of traffic.

Vinay Vinod Sanghi: "I think one of the reasons why our marketing costs are lower is just our brand affinity and the fact that you can generate such a high volume 84% of 3 crore every month organically which you don't have to pay for. I would assume that some of the other platforms don't have this level of organic traffic and I think that is one of the reasons why their marketing costs are much higher, just our brand affinity is just greater, I think that is the simple answer to this question."

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