Cello World Ltd Q2 FY2024 Concall Summary

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Key Takeaways


Growth Outlook & Recovery

Pradeep Rathod: "For at least this six months I'm very sure. Because of the raw material pricing softening up and a little demand being opened up in the market much better than what it was in H1 and now we have the raw material which is fully down, almost we are at a stage where we are now saturated and going down further and we have raw material which is already booked. So, for the next six months, definitely we see whatever we grow the margins will be above that in percentage of sales."

Margin & Profitability Dynamics

Pradeep Rathod: "Definitely, we are at a very good level of margins. I do not really want to comment here we will grow from here. If we compromise also in future a percent or two, definitely the growth will be much higher."

Glassware: The Next Growth Engine


Writing Instruments: A High-Margin Scale-Up

Pankaj Rathod: "We operate in a more innovative way in terms of the distribution, which gives a better margin. Second is also like we don't operate into a lot of categories like there can be a sketch pen which can be sold at Rs.12 for 12 pens but we are selling a coloring pen at about Rs.150 for the same product."

Portfolio Strategy & Competitive Positioning

Pradeep Rathod: "Molded furniture per se where we really want to go into value added products, because we have a competition, which is unethical because of raw material which is used from recycled material and that competition we cannot chase because it's not apple-to-apple, right? And that's why we want to shift our portfolio to a category where it cannot be produced from any recycled raw material or where the brand definitely comes into picture when the price point is very high for a buyer."

Channel & Distribution Evolution


Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
H2 FY24 revenue growth20% YoY revenue growth, 22-24% volume growthH2 FY24 (Oct-Mar)
Margin outperformance vs revenueMargins to grow above revenue growth rate in percentage of salesNext six months
Rajasthan glass plant operationalGreenfield soda lime glass unit begins productionBy March 2024
Glassware sales rampAchieve full ₹250-275 cr sales from new glass plantMaximum 2 to 2.5 years
Opalware capacity utilizationFull utilization of expanded capacity1 to 1.5 years
Molded furniture value-added mixIncrease from 13% to 25-30% of portfolioNext 2-3 years
Three-year revenue CAGR20%+ CAGRNext three years
Channel mix evolutionGT ~70%, online 12-13%, MT 7-8%, exports 10-11%Next 3 years
Writing instruments geographic coverageExpand beyond current 55% of India geographyGoing forward
Porcelain launchHot drink wares and dinnerwareJanuary 2024

Key Metrics

MetricQ2 FY24
Revenue₹489 cr
Gross profit₹261 cr, 53.4% gross profit margin (consolidated)
EBITDA₹120 cr, 24.6% EBITDA margin
PAT₹87 cr, 17.7% PAT margin
H1 FY24 consolidated revenue growth9% YoY
H1 FY24 volume growth13%
H2 FY24 revenue growth guidance20% YoY
Full year volume growth expectation22% to 24%
Q2 FY24 segment mix: Consumerware67% of revenue
Q2 FY24 segment mix: Writing Instruments17% of revenue
Q2 FY24 segment mix: Molded Furniture & allied16% of revenue
H1 FY24 vertical gross margin: Consumerware53%
H1 FY24 vertical gross margin: Writing Instruments58.5%
H1 FY24 vertical gross margin: Molded Furniture & allied45%
Writing Instruments H1 FY24 top line growth24% to 25%
Consumerware H1 FY24 value growth7% to 8%
Consumerware H1 FY24 volume growth13% to 14%
Molded furniture value-added products mix13% of molded furniture business
Value-added products mix target (2-3 years)25% to 30%
Rajasthan soda lime glass unit CAPEX₹200 cr
Soda lime glass unit expected revenue₹250-275 cr depending on product mix
Soda lime glass unit capacity25,000 tons
Opalware expanded capacity total sales potential₹400-425 cr
Opalware capacity utilization (post Aug 2023 expansion)60%
Opalware EBITDA margin range27% to 28%
Writing Instruments capacity (with second plant)~₹550 cr volume possible
Writing Instruments average net realization per piece~₹6.5 to ₹7
Appliances expected turnover FY24~₹75 cr
Online sales as percentage of revenue8%, scaling to 10% to 12%
Marketing spend as percentage of revenue2% to 2.5%
Annual CAPEX (excl. glassware, next few years)₹40 to ₹60 cr
CAPEX to turnover ratio~7x
General trade channel mix75% to 76%, target ~70% over 2-3 years
Writing Instruments export-domestic mix (going forward)30:70