Coforge Ltd Q4 FY2024 Concall Summary

Source transcript PDF: https://www.stockscans.in/document/patqoe03d5ohqqkt5dc7105g.pdf

Key Takeaways


The Cigniti Acquisition: Rationale, Structure & Synergies

Sudhir Singh: "The biggest reason why we're making this big bet is because we've been interacting with them extremely closely across levels starting with the CEO and his team, his directs and their directs for a long time now and we feel truly confident of both their capability and their commitment and our going in position is going to be we will do everything we can to recognize them, to reward them, and to embrace them."

Order Book & Large Deals


FY24 Performance & Margin Walk

Sudhir Singh: "Our ability to claw out and literally claw out a 13.3 percent CC organic growth despite a very tough macro environment in Fiscal Year '24."

Vertical & Client Strategy

Sudhir Singh: "Six, seven years back, we did go pell-mell under my leadership because at that point in time, we were just trying to aggregate logos. Right now, we think we have a significant number of marquee clients with huge wallet spends that we can address more effectively following the model that the BFS team under Gautam has been replicating and we want to make that enterprise-wide."

Gen AI & Innovation


People & Operations


Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
Organic revenue growthRobust growth, closely correlated to the 17.3% YoY increase in executable order bookFY25
Adjusted EBITDA margin expansionIncrease by ~50 bpsFY25
Gross margin expansionExpand by ~50 bpsFY25
Reported EBITDARemain flat due to new ESOP scheme adding 50-60 bpsFY25
Reported EBITDA structural tailwind80-90 bps tailwind without any action, plus gross margin expansionFY26
Net cash companyRepay remaining debt; be net cash positiveEnd of FY25
Cigniti board controlCCI approval expected in 45-50 days, then board control taken~Q2 FY25
Cigniti open offer completionSEBI approval 60-65 days, completion by mid-AugustMid-August 2024
Combined entity revenueGrow into a \$2 billion firmBy FY27
Combined entity marginOperating margins improve by 150-250 bps from Cigniti synergiesBy FY27
Cigniti EBITDA convergenceCigniti's EBITDA to converge toward Coforge's level; roughly 200 bps jump flowing to PAT; merged entity EPS accretive even after amortizationOver time
Run rateRunning at around \$1.5 billionEnd of FY25
Cigniti client scalingNumber of \$10 million-plus clients to go up materially using Cigniti's client repositoryNext 12 months

Key Metrics

MetricQ4 FY24
Revenue (consolidated)US\$1,118.7 million for FY24, +13.3% CC organic growth YoY
Sequential revenue growth1.9% in CC terms, 1.7% in USD terms, 1.5% in INR terms
Adjusted EBITDA margin17.6% for FY24, down 64 bps YoY; SG&A at 15%
Gross margin and adjusted EBITDA sequential growth102 bps each QoQ
Consolidated PAT₹223.7 crore, up 94.8% YoY
FY25 adjusted EBITDA margin guidance+50 bps expansion expected
Order intake (Q4)\$774 million
Order intake (FY24)\$1.97 billion, up 56% YoY
Executable order book (next 12 months)\$1.02 billion, up 17.3% from \$869 million a year back
Large deals signed in FY2411, including two greater than \$300 million TCV
BFS vertical sequential growth6.6% in dollar terms QoQ
Insurance vertical sequential growthFlat QoQ in dollar terms
Travel vertical sequential growth1% QoQ in dollar terms
Offshore revenue as percentage of total52.5%, up from 50.7% in same quarter last year
Utilization81.7%, improved 230 bps QoQ
LTM attrition11.5%
Total headcount24,726, net addition of 119 during the quarter
Billed DSO56 days, down from 63 days in Q3
Cash generation (Q4)\$75 million
OCF to EBITDA (FY24)66%, adjusted for iPad for employees and \$1 billion celebration cost
Bank borrowings reduction (Q4)\$65 million
Cigniti FY24 revenue\$219.2 million, 13.2% CAGR over last 5 years
Cigniti acquisition North America revenue expansion~33%
New Fortune 500 clients via Cigniti28
Cigniti EBITDA~14.5%
Cigniti PAT10%
Coforge current \$10 million plus clients24
Coforge North America revenue share48% of global revenues
FY25 reported EBITDA margin impact from new ESOP scheme50-60 bps higher cost than current year
FY26 structural tailwind from ESOP cost80-90 bps without any action