Crompton Greaves Consumer Electricals Ltd Q4 FY2024 Concall Summary

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Key Takeaways


ECD Performance & Margin Recovery

Kaleeswaran A.: "We are an organization that stands for growth. That's what we want to focus upon... But at the same point of time, unit economics is also going to be guarded against. And if it means that there is a price increase that needs to take to protect the margins consistently, that would happen."

Butterfly Turnaround

Kaleeswaran A.: "By and large the revenue corrections are done. We now need to focus how do we get the revenue growth back."

Premiumization & Portfolio Mix


Lighting: B2B Rises, B2C Waits

Promeet Ghosh: "Will the price erosion continue forever? Obviously not. The price erosion is happening because the Chinese for their part are trying to lower their kits that they sell to India, because they have problems in selling in the rest of the world. Now, that can't go on forever."

Channel & Investment Strategy

Kaleeswaran A.: "Fundamentally, we are a company that is led by unit economics. That is extremely critical for us when we decide to play in any channel. So all our channels are profitable and the difference is not significantly different between one to another."

Demand Environment & Structural Tailwinds

Promeet Ghosh: "In our case, beneficiary. So, it's a very interesting space in our view is fans."

Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
Butterfly revenue and profitability recoveryRevenue and profitability to start moving up in the right direction; pricing actions already started in trade and ecommerceQ2 FY25 onwards
Butterfly margin recoveryGet back to the category EBIT margin the business operated at 1-2 years back, then expand to double-digit in the long runNear term / long run
Solar pump order execution~₹85+ cr in pipeline orders to be executed, adding to ₹35 cr already executed in Q4FY25 onwards
CapEx₹80 to ₹100 cr towards manufacturing capability improvement and product development/innovationOver the next two years
A&P investment levelMaintained as a percentage of revenue at the stepped-up levelOngoing
Price increaseOne more price hike under considerationNot specified
New category entryWill communicate at appropriate time; vectors are go-to-market strength or solutions like large kitchen; white goods are not in considerationNo timeline given

Key Metrics

MetricQ4 FY24
ECD business growth14% YoY
EBITDA margin~12.5%, stepped up from ~10% in the prior three quarters
EBIT margin (excl. EPR)12.3%, 1% higher than Q4 FY23
ECD EBIT margin (excl. EPR)17.2%, up from 12.7% in Q1 FY24
Lighting EBIT margin (excl. EPR)11.1%
Cash flow from operations130% of PBT, versus ~72% last year
Fans growth13% YoY, highest quarterly sales
Pumps growth9% YoY
Appliances growth27% YoY
Air coolers growth33%
Small domestic appliances growth35%
Large kitchen appliances revenue₹61 cr
Butterfly revenue₹166 cr
Butterfly EBITDA-₹20 cr
A&P spends (full year)₹217 cr, 3.14% of revenue vs 2.5% last year
R&D expenditure (full year)₹71 cr
EPR expense (standalone)₹14.1 cr, fully accrued in Q4
Solar pumps fresh orders₹87 cr during the quarter, total empanelment ~₹122 cr for the year
Export channel revenueCrossed ₹100 cr for the first time
Ecommerce channel revenueMaterially higher than ₹100 cr for the second consecutive quarter
Rural channel growth23%
Alternate channels share~20% of overall sales
Fans gross margin~25%, up from ~23% in Q1 FY24
Premium saliency improvement300 bps YoY overall; 380 bps in ceiling fans; 410 bps in large domestic appliances
Fans annual volume milestoneCrossed 2 crore fans per annum for the first time
Agri Pumps market share7% to 8%
CapEx plan (next two years)₹80 to ₹100 cr