Indian Metals & Ferro Alloys Ltd Q1 FY2024 Concall Summary

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Key Takeaways


Volume & Realization Dynamics

Mohanty: "Unless China revives, sentiments cannot go up and prices moving up will be difficult."

Cost Structure & Margin Levers

Mohanty: "That way if you look at, it becomes 2 quarters. That is why I told, at the moment, our coke cost is high and it will go down in Q3 and Q4."

Competitive Position & Industry Structure

Mohanty: "The present price is not sustainable for a non-integrated producer."

Expansion & Capital Allocation

Khandelwal: "If we have to expand, then we have to put up furnaces also because we are expanding our chrome ore facility. We are expecting more ore from the underground mines. That's why we are putting up more furnaces also. And the biggest strength in our company is that we are fully integrated. So, at any point of time, we are going to make money. Even at the bottom of the curve, we are going to make money. So, why should we not expand?"

Utkal C & Other Balance Sheet Items

Khandelwal: "We understand that whatever we have invested, we are going to get back the money. There may not be any write-off."

Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
Q2 realizationSlight decrease in average realization vs Q1Q2 FY24
Q2 EBITDACould be a little softer than Q1Q2 FY24
Coke cost reduction in P&LHigh coke cost will go down as lower-priced inventory flows throughQ3 and Q4 FY24
Full-year coke cost reduction₹5,000 per tonne reduction predicted for the full yearFY24
Full-year financialsTop line, EBITDA and PAT expected to remain more or less the same as FY23FY24
Volume target250,000 tonnes, same level or a little more than FY23FY24
Kalinganagar furnace 1First furnace startupApril 2025
Kalinganagar furnace 2Second furnace startup, 2–3 months after furnace 1 stabilizesMid-2025
Utkal C compensationRecovery of invested amount expected, no write-offTimeline uncertain; "should come sooner now"
Underground miningTransition to reach 10.5 lakh tonnes ore capacityToward 2028–29

Key Metrics

MetricQ1 FY24
RevenueNot stated
EBITDA₹183 cr, compared to ₹143 cr in Q4 FY23
PAT₹110 cr, compared to ₹64 cr in Q4 FY23
PBT₹150 cr, compared to FY23 full-year PBT of ₹340 cr
EBITDA per tonne₹81,044, compared to ₹86,686 in Q4 FY23
Prime realization per tonne₹1,15,825, compared to ₹1,16,558 in Q4 FY23
Production volume66,261 tonnes, compared to 61,200 tonnes in Q4 FY23
Sales volume64,695 tonnes, compared to 57,362 tonnes in Q4 FY23
FY24 volume target250,000 tonnes, same level or slightly more than FY23
FY24 profitability guidanceMore or less likely the same as FY23 for topline, EBITDA and PAT
Sales mix: long-term vs spot65% long-term, 35% spot
Coke consumption cost₹42,500 per tonne, compared to ₹47,800 in Q4 FY23
Coal cost₹2.80 per unit, compared to ₹3.01 in Q4 FY23
Variable power cost₹4.00 per unit, compared to ₹4.26 in Q4 FY23
Net debt positionAlmost at zero level