Indian Metals & Ferro Alloys Ltd Q2 FY2025 Concall Summary

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Key Takeaways


Cost Structure & Competitive Moat

Khandelwal: "You see, we are at such a level in as far as cost curve is concerned that if prices come down at certain unsustainable level, then most of the facilities would be shut down worldwide. So, almost 70%-80% capacity will shut down, but even at that level, we would be making some money. That is the advantage we have."

Expansion Projects: Ferro Chrome & Mining


Ethanol Diversification

Khandelwal: "No, that area, I think nobody else is there. So, that is why we have started. We have pioneered there."

Capital Allocation & Balance Sheet


Market Outlook & Risks

Khandelwal: "No, I don't think he has indicated that because in our business predicting more than 2 quarters is very difficult. So, what he has mentioned in the interview that next 2 quarters looks like that we are going to maintain these kind of margins. Beyond that, it is very difficult to predict anything, so we need to see where the market is at that point of time and the demand and supply situation will determine the price."

Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
Margin maintenanceMaintain current kind of marginsNext 2 quarters
Furnace boundary work completionBoundary work for new furnace completedEnd of December 2024
Major equipment payments beginPayments for new furnace equipment commence, major in Q2Q1/Q2 2025
First furnace expansion commissioning1 lakh ton furnace operational, contributing to volumesQ2 FY26 (effectively FY27)
Ethanol plant operational120 KLD plant producing, revenue in Jan-Mar quarterEnd of December 2025
Second furnace expansion startSecond 1 lakh ton expansion beginsFY28 or FY29
Sukinda mine first phaseMining capacity reaches 6 lakh tons per annumFY31
Total capex envelope~₹2,000 crores spent across all projectsNext 6-7 years

Key Metrics

MetricQ2 FY25
RevenueNot stated
EBITDA₹176 cr, 25.38% margin
Cost of production₹69,600 per ton
EBITDA per ton₹77,500
Power cost (variable)₹3.85 per unit
Coke cost₹16,545 per ton
Ferro Chrome production~65,000 tons, running at full capacity of 2,84,000 tons annually
Chrome ore production~18% lower than Q1 FY25, due to extended monsoon
Chrome ore consumption ratio2.3–2.4 tons of chrome ore per ton of Ferro Chrome
Total cash and bank balance₹869 cr as on date
Working capital requirement₹240 cr
Net cash~₹600 cr (per an analyst's math)
Power and fuel expenses₹101 cr, reclassified from raw material consumption this quarter
CAPEX incurred in H1 FY25₹41 cr on property, plant and equipment
Total CAPEX planned over 6–7 years~₹2,000 cr, comprising ₹650 cr furnace, ₹1,000 cr mining, ₹140 cr ethanol, ₹100–₹120 cr RE power
Ethanol project CAPEX₹140 cr, payback in ~6 years, projected EBITDA margin 14–15% at full utilization
Mining capacity (current)9 lakh tons per annum (Mahagiri underground 6 lakh, Sukinda opencast 3 lakh)
Mining expansion target0.12 crore tons (12 lakh tons) per annum from both mines, expected by FY31