Larsen & Toubro Ltd Q3 FY2025 Concall Summary

Key Takeaways

• Record quarterly order inflow of ₹1.16 tn, up 53% YoY, driven by Infrastructure, Hydrocarbon, and a landmark 5.2 GW Middle East renewable project, giving management confidence to raise full-year order inflow guidance above 10%.
• Group revenue grew 17% YoY but EBITDA margin fell to 9.7% as the revenue mix tilted toward the lower-margin Projects & Manufacturing portfolio while the higher-margin IT&TS segment posted only 8% growth and absorbed wage hikes.
• The ₹23,400 crore CarbonLite order inflow is a BTG-only scope, not full EPC, for 4 GW of ultra-mega thermal plants, a clarification that tempers the headline number.
• Management signalled potential upside to its 15% revenue growth guidance for FY25 while maintaining its 8.2% P&M EBITDA margin target, with Hydrocarbon margins expected to jump in Q4 or Q1 as large projects cross recognition thresholds.
• What to watch next quarter: Whether the promised Hydrocarbon margin step-up materialises in Q4, the pace of recovery in slowed Jal Jeevan Mission water projects, and any concrete timeline on TOD monetisation for Hyderabad Metro.

Order Inflow & Pipeline

• Record quarter: Order inflow hit ₹1.16 tn, a 53% YoY jump, with Infrastructure, Hydrocarbon, CarbonLite Solutions, and Precision Engineering & Systems all contributing strongly.
• The mega renewable win: A 5.2 GW, 19 GWh solar-plus-storage project in the Middle East was booked in Q3 after client clearance in January; it is one of the largest renewable investments the UAE has undertaken.
• Pipeline comfort for Q4: Management stated it is "well placed" on 4-5 very large orders to meet the ~₹65,000 crore Q4 inflow needed to beat full-year guidance, while cautioning that large orders can always slip.
• Prospect pipeline down YoY: The total prospects pipeline for the remaining 3 months stands at ₹5.51 tn, down 12% from ₹6.27 tn a year ago, entirely due to a fall in Hydrocarbon and CarbonLite prospects.
• Infrastructure prospects dominate: ₹4.00 tn of the pipeline is Infrastructure (₹3.15 tn domestic, ₹0.85 tn international), with Energy prospects at ₹1.44 tn, all in Hydrocarbon.
• Defense orders: No immediate prospect seen for the next three months, though the Precision Engineering & Systems segment has already booked ₹12,000 crores of orders in 9 months.

P. Ramakrishnan: "I said we are well placed. It is just to give the comfort that while we get into Q4, since you all know that a 10% guidance for the full year also means that we need to print almost 65,000 crore of orders in Q4. So just to give the comfort that we seemingly are on track because we are well placed in 4, 5 very large orders. But since the orders are large, there can be always a slippage into subsequent quarters or not closing of the contract itself."

Segment Performance

• Infrastructure margin outlook: Softer margins of the last 2-3 years are expected to improve as old pre-FY22/23 orders taper off and new large orders complete on schedule; better visibility on FY26 trajectory will come after internal budgets close around May.
• Slow-moving orders: Funds stopped for water projects under the Jal Jeevan Mission caused isolated execution issues; fund flow momentum began restarting in December. Management declined to quantify the revenue impact.

Hydrocarbon & CarbonLite

• 9-month margin at 7.6%: All three quarters printed at that level, but a very high Q4 EBITDA margin run rate is baked into the plan as some large projects cross margin recognition thresholds.
• Recognition timing: Some large projects could cross the threshold in Q4, some may slip into Q1; subsequent quarters are expected to be favourable for Hydrocarbons.
• CarbonLite order clarification: The ₹23,400 crore order inflow includes the entire 4 GW of ultra-mega plants, but this is only the BTG (boiler, turbine, generator) scope, not full EPC; the balance of plant is excluded. Per an analyst's math, the per-MW ordering cost is ~₹5.5 crores; management stated it is "upwards of 6" crores.
• Green hydrogen PLI win: L&T Energy Green Tech won 90,000 MTPA of green hydrogen capacity under tranche 2 of the production-linked incentive scheme at an average incentive of ₹11.11/kg, for a total benefit of ~₹300 crore over 3 years, subject to capacity being set up.

Subramanian Sarma: "Now of course, our decision will also depend upon how the market evolves and the economics related to that investment decision. We are very actively pursuing many opportunities within India as well as outside. And we are quite confident that some of those will materialize. Now to what extent and when is something a little bit uncertain now, but we are very hopeful."

International Markets

• Middle East execution intact: No slowdown seen in Saudi Arabia; some reprioritisation of capital allocation in non-priority projects, but oil & gas, carbon capture, and petrochemicals remain top priority.
• Payment terms favourable: Management stated that retention amounts on completed Middle East projects are not expected to be large, unlike in India or other countries; working capital performance is better than domestic.
• Competition manageable: Chinese competitors appear in some infrastructure or hydrocarbon projects, but L&T is selective and able to secure jobs at desired margin levels; the addressable market is large enough.
• Manpower capacity: For ultra-mega projects, L&T uses a hybrid model with a sub-contracting strategy, working with large construction contractors who have access to large labour pools.

P. Ramakrishnan: "Basis the contracts that we have got. Shrinidhi, I want to tell you that as and when the projects get complete we don't expect in the balance sheet there will be a large amount of retention, which is not the case like in any other segment, possibly in India or any other country. So the payment terms are favourable."

Balance Sheet & Capital Allocation

• Working capital improvement: Net Working Capital to sales improved from 16.6% to 12.7%, driven by strong customer collections; management expects NWC to revenue around the same 12.7% level at year-end.
• Order book composition: 45% of the order book is fixed-price, with the balance variable.
• Hyderabad Metro debt reduction: Third-party metro debt of ₹12,600 crores is expected to reduce to ~₹9,000 crores over time, lowering interest costs; ₹900 crores of a ₹3,000 crore Telangana government loan has been received, with the balance ₹2,100 crores expected in the near term.
• TOD monetisation: Approval for transit-oriented development monetisation is expected possibly in Q4.
• Nabha Power: The asset is performing well, generating ~₹100-110 crores profit per quarter with clear earnings visibility; management is open to monetisation but only at fair valuation.
• New business investments: Capital is stepping into green energy, data centres, and semiconductor design; these are expected to start contributing to group returns in the next Lakshya plan (FY27 to FY31).
• E2E Networks stake: 15% acquired for ₹1,080 crores, treated as an associate; a further 6% secondary acquisition is expected before May 30, 2025. The partnership leverages E2E's AI cloud data centre offerings alongside L&T's data centre infrastructure.

Semiconductor & New Ventures

• Semiconductor strategy: Current foray is in IP-led semiconductor design; a decision on fab investment will be explored based on the success of that design business over the next 2-3 years and is not in the near term.
• Display fab: Various aspects are being looked at but it is too premature to articulate an exact plan; management will keep options open.

P. Ramakrishnan: "The only thing I can talk about at the current juncture, our foray is in the semiconductor design. And I think it will pan out in the next 2 to 3 years when we build-up the various products under IP-led design. And basis the success that we have, we will explore whether we go into the fab manner, but that is not in the near-term."

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