Lupin Ltd Q3 FY2024 Concall Summary

Source transcript PDF: https://www.stockscans.in/document/03c0c0irsffamet6s12cecdf.pdf

Key Takeaways


US Business: The Complex Generics Pivot

Vinita Gupta: "We feel pretty good about the potential of being alone in the market over the next couple of years. And if you just look at what it took for us to get approval of the product, it was five years at the FDA, and that was because the product is a pretty challenging product."

India Business: Doubling Down on the Home Market

Nilesh Gupta: "I think the idea is to make bigger brands. We're doing that in Respiratory, we're doing that in Cardiovascular and Diabetes as well. But there's also this opportunity to focus on extra-urban. So yeah, we are doubling down on India."

Margin Trajectory: The 22–23% Glide Path

Ramesh Swaminathan: "Having said all of that, the fact of the matter is our EBITDA margins are still lower than the competition and we would like to get to the 22.5%, 23% range. But given all of this, the moving parts, we would like to state that it should be between the 19.5% to 20.5%. But clearly, the pathway is to get to the 22%, 23% as early as possible."

Pipeline & Portfolio: What Comes Next


Capital Position & Operational Discipline

Vinita Gupta: "Our focus on oral solids is the baseline. We want to manage it as efficiently as possible. It's a very, very strong focus on cost improvement there through KSMs and other related spend, making sure that we don't have idle costs."

Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
US quarterly revenueSustain at \$200 mn+ levelNext few quarters
Tiotropium market shareReach 40%+ (revised from 35%)Implied near-term, based on current ramp rate
US FY25 growthSingle-digit base case; double-digit if Mirabegron/Slynd litigation succeedsFY25
US FY26 growthDouble-digit, driven by Tolvaptan, Liraglutide, injectablesFY26
India growthContinue 20–30% ahead of IPM growth"Foreseeable future"
EBITDA margin19.5–20.5% near-term; pathway to 22–23% "as early as possible," earlier than 3–4 yearsNear-term / medium-term
DebtBecome debt-freeBy year-end FY24
Full-year R&D spendINR 1,500–1,550 croresFY24
Full-year ETR~20%FY24
Spiriva generic competitionNo additional generic competition expectedNext couple of years
Inhaler pipeline filingsAt least 1–2 products across Respimat/Ellipta platforms taking exhibit batches, potentially filingNext 12 months
Pegfilgrastim approvalResponse to CRL in next 3 months; approval end-FY25 or just afterWithin 3 months / end-FY25
Tolvaptan launchMaterial product launchEarly FY26
Liraglutide launchAlready filed, should come to marketFY25–26 timeframe
Mirabegron launchQ1 FY25 if litigation outcome favorableQ1 FY25 (conditional)
Dulera CRL responseFile response to agencyNext 3 months or so
India new divisionsLaunch a couple more divisionsNext two quarters

Key Metrics

MetricQ3 FY24
Revenue₹5,080 cr, +19.7% YoY and +2.8% QoQ; highest quarterly sales ever
Gross margin66.0%, up from 59.8% YoY and 65.5% QoQ
EBITDA (excl forex & other income)₹1,022 cr, +98% YoY
EBITDA margin20.1%, vs 12.2% YoY and 18.7% QoQ
9M FY24 EBITDA margin (excl NCE income)17.8%
R&D spend₹357 cr, 7.0% of sales vs 6.8% YoY
Full-year R&D guidance₹1,500–1,550 cr
US business revenue\$212 mn, steady QoQ in constant currency; second consecutive quarter above \$200 mn
US business next-year growth guidanceSingle-digit %, potentially double-digit if key litigation products launch
Inhalation share of US sales~40%, vs ~45% in Q2 due to Tiotropium channel load-in and Albuterol seasonality
India business growth13.4% YoY; 1.6x IPM growth rate
India prescription business growth12.9% YoY in Q3; 10% in 9M FY24
In-licensed products share of India portfolio10.4%, reduced from ~15–16% last year
EMEA growth36% YoY
Growth Markets growth13% YoY
ROW growth72% YoY
Net debt₹1,043 cr, reduced from ₹2,527 cr at March 2023 end
Net working capital days96 days, reduced from 135 days as of Dec 31, 2022
Effective tax rate15.8% in Q3; full year expected ~20%
EBITDA margin medium-term target22–23%, to be achieved within three years
Adjacencies margin drag~2.5 ppt; core margin would be ~2.7% higher excluding digital, diagnostics, OTC
Tiotropium (Spiriva) IQVIA market share~31%
ANDA approvals in the quarter14
India field force size~8,000+ in the field; close to 10,000 total India region team
India divisions32; 6–7 launched in last nine months; 2 more planned in next two quarters
India new product launches (last 12 months)Ranked #1 per IQVIA; 21 launches in the year so far
Freight cost increase (Red Sea)30–35% already; impact expected from Q1 next fiscal
ESG – DJSI score69 in S&P ESG Assessment 2023
ESG – CDP Climate Change scoreB, improved from C over last two years