Lupin Ltd Q2 FY2025 Concall Summary

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Key Takeaways


US Business: The Margin Engine

Vinita Gupta: "So far, we have evolved our business to 40% complex generics, and we have an exciting pipeline with more than 20 respiratory products, and 40 injectable products in development that we believe will enable us to continue to drive the shift to 50% plus in the next couple of years."

Margin Structure & Levers

Ramesh Swaminathan: "Obviously, we believe that our core should be in the range of about 23% - 25% and that is something that we would get to in the medium term."

India & Emerging Markets


Pipeline: Complex Generics, Injectables & Biosimilars

Vinita Gupta: "Injectables right now are a very small part of our portfolio so were looking forward to these approvals. We expect Glucagon and Dalbavancin in the next couple of quarters. One may be in Q4 and I think one might slip into Q1 of next year."

Strategic Bets: CDMO & Capital Allocation

Nilesh Gupta: "Obviously, it's early days, we're putting the team together. I think we've got almost all the entire structure that will fall in place between this quarter and the next quarter. And then obviously, I think we need to put our head down and give it a year or two years of good work to be able to talk about this."

Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
EBITDA marginMaintain 22% to 23% rangeFull fiscal year 2025
US revenue growthClose to double-digit growthFull fiscal year 2025
US quarterly run-rateReach USD 250 million level, putting annual run-rate at USD 1 billion+Next year (FY26)
Complex generics mixShift from 40% to 50%+ of portfolioNext couple of years
Gross marginSustain around 68% to 69%Ongoing, barring geopolitical uncertainty in Middle East
R&D spendApproximately INR 1,800 croresFull fiscal year 2025
Effective tax rate20% to 21%Full fiscal year 2025
Injectables: Glucagon, DalbavancinApprovals expected; one may slip into Q1 FY26Next couple of quarters
Injectables: Risperidone, LiraglutideLaunches expectedNext fiscal year (FY26)
Ranibizumab biosimilarFile in US and EUBy end of fiscal year 2025
NaMuscla DMFile in US2026; commercialization likely fiscal 2028
GLP-1 in India/emerging marketsLaunch first of several products2026
Core EBITDA marginReach 23% to 25% rangeMedium term
AdjacenciesBecome profitable and spin off with private equityNext couple of years
Spiriva market shareDrive Medicare-Medicaid conversion toward mid-30sNext couple of quarters

Key Metrics

MetricQ2 FY25
Revenue₹5,497 cr, +11.3% YoY
H1 FY25 revenue₹11,011 cr, +13.7% YoY
EBITDA (ex-Forex and other income)₹1,308 cr, +42% YoY; margin 23.8% vs 18.7% YoY
EBITDA margin expansion+510 bps YoY, +50 bps QoQ
Gross margin69.3%, up from 68.4% QoQ and 65.5% YoY
R&D spend₹448 cr, 8.2% of sales vs 6.3% QoQ; FY25 guidance ~₹1,800 cr
Employee benefit expenses₹1,007 cr, 18.3% of sales vs 17.4% YoY
Other operating income₹176 cr, up ₹76 cr QoQ driven by PLI and export benefits
Net debt₹274 cr, vs ₹477 cr in March 2024
Operating working capital days107 days, vs 105 days as of March 2024
Effective tax rate (H1 FY25)18.7%, full year expected 20%–21%
US business revenue\$220 mn, +3% YoY constant currency
India business growth+18.8% YoY; India formulations +10.9% YoY, 1.4x IPM
India chronic segment growth+13.5% YoY vs IPM growth of 9.7%
India volume growth3.5%
India in-licensed products share~12% of sales vs 15% last year
EMEA growth+20% YoY
Growth markets growth+12% YoY; APAC +10%, LATAM +14%
Ex-India, ex-North America formulations revenue₹1,222 cr, +10% YoY, 22% of sales
Spiriva market share~30% overall; >50% in commercial channel
Albuterol generic/AG share of market80%+
India sales force productivity~₹7.5 lakhs per month
Adjacencies EBITDA margin impact0.8% drag on consolidated margin
Provision for dispute₹58 cr
S&P Global ESG score76, vs pharma industry average ~30