Max Healthcare Institute Ltd Q3 FY2025 Concall Summary

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Key Takeaways


Brownfield Expansion & Operating Leverage

Abhay Soi: "If your contribution is 60%, you take out 8% from that. So, 52% of your top line is going straight to your bottom line."

Asset-Light Growth & Capital Allocation

Abhay Soi: "Our upper limit is 2.5x net debt-to-EBITDA, but we are far from that."

Payor Mix & Pricing Dynamics

Abhay Soi: "5-6% growth in pricing every two years is not something that you can dispute, right? How much lower do you want to be is the question."

Unit-Level Performance & Seasonality


Market Position & Competitive Moat

Abhay Soi: "Today, we have 15 facilities in Delhi NCR, which are twice the number of facilities of the next three listed players put together. So, literally three players put together and the next 20 players are not even the same size."

Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
Brownfield bed additionsNanavati Phase 1 (268 beds), Max Smart Saket (400 beds), Mohali (155 beds)Within 3–6 months (Q1 FY26)
Sector-56 Gurgaon first phase300 bedsEnd of Q3 FY26
Zirakpur Mohali hospital400 bedsWithin 30 months
Thane hospital500 beds, asset-light build-to-suitCommissioning in 2028
Lucknow oncology bunkerRadiation bunker operationalJuly 2025
CGHS rate revisionRate increase expectedWithin 1–2 months
Nagpur ROCE target20–25%Within 4 years
Net debt-to-EBITDA ceilingUpper limit 2.5xOngoing; currently 0.65x
Capex outlay₹500–600 crore on brownfieldsNext 3–4 months

Key Metrics

MetricQ3 FY25
Network gross revenue₹2,381 cr, +34% YoY and +7% QoQ
Existing Units revenue growth+16% YoY, driven by 8% OBD growth and 7% ARPOB growth
Network operating EBITDA₹622 cr, +32% YoY and +10% QoQ
Network operating EBITDA margin27.3%
Existing Units EBITDA margin28.6%, improved 70 bps YoY
Profit after tax before exceptional item₹390 cr, +15% YoY
Exceptional item₹74 cr, YEIDA charges for Jaypee shareholding change permission
Free cash flow from operations₹303 cr
Net debt₹1,608 cr at end of December 2024
Net debt-to-EBITDA0.65x after Jaypee acquisition
Network average occupancy75% vs 73% in Q3 last year and 79% in trailing quarter
Occupied bed days growth+36% YoY and +8% QoQ
Network ARPOB₹75,900, flat YoY and QoQ
Like-for-like ARPOB for Existing Units+7% YoY and +3% QoQ
Annualized EBITDA per bed (network)₹73 lakhs
Like-for-like EBITDA per bed (Existing Units)₹82.6 lakhs, +9% YoY
International patient revenue₹201 cr, +28% YoY and +8% QoQ
Institutional bed share~30% for the quarter
New Units gross revenue₹323 cr
New Units EBITDA contribution₹60 cr
Max@Home revenue₹55 cr, +24% YoY
Max Lab gross revenue₹41 cr, +22% YoY
Max Lucknow revenue growth+58% YoY
Max Lucknow EBITDA growth+94% YoY
Max Nagpur revenue growth+22% YoY
Max Nagpur EBITDA growth+50% YoY
Jaypee Noida gross revenue₹112 cr
Jaypee Noida operating EBITDA₹23 cr at 21% margin
Max Dwarka revenue₹59 cr
Max Dwarka EBITDAloss of ₹5 cr; achieved EBITDA breakeven in December 2024, within 6 months of launch
Capacity expansion CAPEX deployed in Q3₹362 cr
Dividend distributed in Q3₹146 cr
Jaypee acquisition cost (net of cash)₹1,716 cr
Gap between cash and institutional ARPOB36%, reduced from 44% earlier
Insurance price change every two years~12–13%, implying medical inflation of 5.5–6% per year
Upcountry share of NCR business40%
Nanavati Phase 1 bed addition268 beds, completion expected in 3–4 months
Max Smart (Saket) bed addition400 beds, completion expected by Q1 FY26
Mohali bed addition155 beds, completion expected by Q1 FY26
Gurgaon Sector-56 bed addition500 beds, first phase of 300 beds by end of Q3 FY26
Thane built-to-suit hospital500 beds, expected commissioning in 2028
Zirakpur (Mohali) built-to-suit hospital400 beds, enhanced from 250 beds; expected within 30 months
Upper limit for net debt-to-EBITDA2.5x
Brownfield CAPEX expected over next 3–4 months₹500–600 cr
Medical equipment outlay for Thane and Mohali built-to-suit₹150–200 cr, approximately ₹30 lakh per bed, back-ended
Cash conversion rate~65% considered reasonable
Nagpur Q3 occupancy79% midnight occupancy, vs 91% in Q2
Nagpur Q3 revenue₹54 cr
Nagpur Q3 EBITDA₹11 cr, roughly 20% margin
Nagpur current ROCE10–11%, target 20–25%
Balaji PHF fee revision annual impact~₹25 cr of PBT upstreamed into MHIL
Thane lease term15 years (5+5+5), with call option to acquire at cost after 12 months of operations
Greenfield project real cost₹1.9–2 cr per bed
Mature hospitals EBITDA margin29–30%
Asset-light model EBITDA margin (pre Ind AS)5–6% lower than mature hospitals
Nanavati operational beds~280, net increase of 140–150 beds after Phase 1
Nanavati Phase 2 bed reduction160 beds torn down, then 271 beds added; net reduction of 111 beds
Dwarka existing structure capacity300 beds, 140 operational, another 160 to be fitted out
Incremental cost for new floors post-breakeven8–9% of revenues; with 60% contribution margin, 52% of top line flows to bottom line
Nine-months institutional payor revenue growth~34% YoY, vs bed share growth of ~20%
Donation from Balaji and Devki Devi Society₹40 cr