Max Financial Services Ltd Q2 FY2024 Concall Summary

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Key Takeaways


Top-Line Momentum & Channel Performance

Amrit Singh: "But at a cost of acquisition level, you should assume that it has remained stable of how it was previously."

Margin Trajectory & Product Mix

Prashant Tripathy: "I remain absolutely optimistic about the margin guidance. As the year began, I had shared that the business will be making investment towards growth and market share. And hence, the 31% margins was not sustainable for us, which we achieved last year, and we had given a guidance of 27% to 28%. We remain committed to that, and we are very optimistic that we'll be able to go in that range."

Axis Bank Transaction & Strategic Relationship

Prashant Tripathy: "Axis Bank believes in open architecture. And it believes in having multiple partners at the same time, they have clarified and so have we to investors at large that Max Life is an investment of Axis Bank. And hence, our counter share will be kept at 65% to 70%."

Protection, Health & Annuity Breakout


Digital & Operational Investments

Prashant Tripathy: "We are informed by Oracle that we are the only second company in the world to move the Ingenium core system to cloud."

Long-Term Margin & Competitive Positioning

Prashant Tripathy: "As we grow and there is operating leverage that comes the margin will improve, but you are in a competitive situation, you are fighting it out with competition. So that eats into margins. So honestly, over the next 2 to 3 years, we should think about the margin profile from 27%, 28% going up by maybe a couple of hundred basis points."

Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
New business marginAchieve 27–28% rangeBy fiscal year-end
Full-year APE growthDouble-digit growth rateFull fiscal year
Opex elevationElevated opex will remainThis fiscal year
ULIP margin dragExpected to settle, not structural or permanentAs the year progresses
Non-PAR product launchNew non-PAR variant launchingImminent (within days of call date)
Agency channel momentum20–30% growth rangeOnce new office buildup effect kicks in (undated condition)
Long-term margin profileRise from 27–28% by a couple of hundred basis pointsOver next 2–3 years
Axis Bank counter shareMaintained at 65–70%Ongoing

Key Metrics

MetricQ2 FY24
Consolidated revenue (excl. investment income)₹11,221 cr, +16% YoY (H1 FY24)
Consolidated PAT₹271 cr, +109% YoY (H1 FY24)
Gross premium₹11,496 cr, +16% YoY (H1 FY24)
Renewal premium₹7,215 cr, +11% YoY (H1 FY24)
Value of New Business (VNB)₹663 cr, +13% YoY (H1 FY24)
New Business Margin (NBM)25.2% in Q2, 24% in H1; FY24 guidance of 27%–28%
Embedded value₹17,911 cr as at 30 Sep 2023
Operating ROEV17.5% (H1 FY24)
Solvency ratio184%
AUM~₹1.34 lakh cr
Individual adjusted first year premium growth32% YoY in Q2, vs 16% private sector growth
Number of policies growth34% YoY in Q2
Proprietary channels APE growth50% YoY in Q2
Banca channels APE growth30% YoY in Q2
Protection and Health segment growth55% YoY on APE basis (H1 FY24)
Annuity sales growth217% YoY on APE basis (H1 FY24)
13th month persistency (regular limited pay)84% for period ending Sep 2023
61st month persistency58% for period ending Sep 2023
Policyholder opex to GWP ratio15.4% (H1 FY24)
Axis Bank counter share~70% in H1 FY24, stable in 65%–70% range
Axis Bank growth (MFYP basis)12% YoY in H1 FY24, 28% in Q2
Agency channel recruitment growth62% YoY
Agent count~77,000, up 7,000 in H1 FY24
Net Promoter Score (overall)55, up from 52
Max Life Pension AUM~₹409 cr as at 30 Sep 2023
Profit before tax (Max Life FY23)₹260 cr, +81% YoY