Max Financial Services Ltd Q3 FY2025 Concall Summary

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Key Takeaways


Margin Walk: Product Mix and Surrender Rules

Tripathy: "Very happy to share with you that it remains at the lowest end of the guideline that we have been given. It is close to about 100 basis point impact."

Product Mix: The ULIP Overweight and the Path Back

Tripathy: “At our level, the product mix of, you know, upwards of 45%, close to 45% ULIP at a total level is on the higher side. We will typically like to be in the range of 35 to 40%.”

Growth Engine: Channels, Brand, and Persistency


Merger, Listing, and Axis Ownership

Tripathy: “Hopefully, a few months lower, but it is not going to be crunched to, you know, coming in one or two quarters. It will take its own time.”

Guidance, Targets, and the Medium-Term View

Tripathy: “Hopefully, as we fix the product mix, we will come in the range that we typically like to be, which is around 25% or plus.”

Risks and Open Questions

Singh: “It is very mathematically identifiable that how much is the margin implication. And what we have shared is actually basis what we have seen in that product form with the increased surrender regulations and the fact that we have adjusted for things around expense, commissions and returns, etc.”

Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
FY25 sales growthClose to 20% (20% is lower end)FY25 full year
FY25 VNB growthHigh single-digit growthFY25 full year
VNB margin23–24% for FY25; ~25% or plus over long horizonsFY25 / long-term
ULIP mix normalizationReturn to 35–40% range“As things stabilize… a couple of quarters”
Merger listing processFile with regulator once Insurance Amendment Bill passes; NCLT process ~1 yearPost-amendment; ~1 year from filing
Growth vs market300–500 bps above market growth rateOngoing

Key Metrics

MetricQ3 FY25
Individual adjusted first-year premium growth25% in 9M FY25, vs private sector 19% and overall industry 14%
Total APE₹2,108 cr, down from ₹2,170 cr in Q2 FY25
Total APE growth17% YoY, driven by 11% increase in policy issues
Value of new business₹1,255 cr in 9M FY25, growth of 9%
New business margin21.9% in 9M FY25; Q3 margin at 23.2% vs 27.2% in Q3 FY24
Surrender guideline impact on margin~100 bps, at the lowest end of 100–200 bps guidance
Product mix impact on margin~300 bps of the ~400 bps YoY Q3 margin decline, net of corrective actions
MFSL consolidated revenue excluding investment income₹20,907 cr, growth of 14% in 9M FY25
MFSL consolidated profit after tax₹365 cr in 9M FY25
Axis Max Life gross premium₹21,360 cr, growth of 14% in 9M FY25
Axis Max Life renewal premium₹13,269 cr, growth of 12% in 9M FY25
Axis Max Life 9M profit before tax₹397 cr, degrowth of 9%
Embedded value₹24,129 cr as at Dec 31, 2024
Annualized total RoEV21.2% for 9M FY25; annualized operating RoEV at 17.3%
Non-operating variance₹537 cr positive for 9M FY25, down from ₹660 cr in H1 due to equity movements
Solvency ratio196% as at Dec 31, 2024
AUM~₹1.72 lakh cr, growth of 20%
ULIP share in product mix44%, up from 35% in Q3 FY24; management targets 35–40% range
ULIP segment growth49% YoY in Q3
Retail protection business growth37% in 9M FY25
Rider attachment ratio45%, up from 32% in 9M FY24; rider APE growth over 250%
PAR segment growth10% in Q3
Prop channels growth24% in Q3 and 41% over 9M FY25
Banca channel growth12% in Q3 and 14% over 9M FY25
Group Credit Life business growth18% in 9M FY25
New partners onboarded8 in Q3 FY25: 5 group credit life, 2 brokers, 1 corporate agent; surpassed ₹100 cr mark
13th month regular limited pay persistency87%, up from 85%, an increase of 240 bps
Net promoter score61 in Dec 2024, up from 56 in Mar 2024
Policyholder OPEX to GWP14.9% for 9M FY25; total cost to GWP at 24.3%
Policyholder OPEX growth15% in 9M FY25; Q3 growth of 2%
Claim risk avoided by risk analytics enginesClose to ₹700 cr in 9M FY25
Axis Group ownership in Axis Max Life19.02%, with a 0.98% option pending regulatory approvals
New business strainUp 57% YoY in Q3, driven by ULIP designs and surrender regulations
Full-year APE growth target20% or above; 20% is the lower end
Full-year VNB growth targetHigh single-digit
Medium-term margin target25% or plus
Growth target vs market300–500 bps above market growth rate