Oriental Aromatics Ltd Q1 FY2023 Concall Summary

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Key Takeaways


Margin Pressure & the Elusive Stable State

Dharmil Bodani: "We are not expecting them to return to 19 levels, there is a new normal and that new normal needs to stabilize, we are finding that the new normal is not stabilizing."

CAPEX Restart & Project Timelines

Parag Satoskar: "We become five times more careful when we actually take debt otherwise we love to stay debt free."

Camphor: Pricing Pressure & Future Growth


Backward Integration & Technology

Dharmil Bodani: "The delta currently between the CST based raw materials and alpha pining or the beta pining is there it exists, but it does not really put Oriental Aromatics in a situation where competition will have a advantage in terms of selling price or in terms of realization."

Demand Environment & Volume Trends


Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
FY23 EBITDA margin7% to 10%FY23
Long-term EBITDA margin15% to 17%Over a long-term period, in a stable-state scenario
FY23 revenue growth5% to 7%FY23
FY23 volume growth5% to 10%FY23
Baroda commissioningGreenfield hydrogenation facility completed, commissioned, validatedEnd of H1 calendar 2023 (June 2023)
Baroda sales impact (spot)Extra production impact on spot procurement sideH2 calendar 2023
Baroda sales impact (RFQ)RFQ-driven revenueH1 calendar 2024
Mahad first plant commissioningFirst plant operationalEnd of H1 calendar 2023
Bareilly terpene expansionsSmall expansions completedBefore October 2022
Revenue ramp from CAPEXBaroda and Bareilly numbers start contributingFY24
Full capacity utilization75–80% within 1,000 days; full capacity in worst case3 years from commissioning
Peak debt during CAPEXAround ₹250–300 cr including term loanNext ~1.5 years
CST backward integration timelineDetailed timeline to be announcedNext quarter
Asset turnover1.5 to 1.7 timesReconfirmed, no timeline
ROI at current margins~10–12%Current, improving as margins move toward 15–17%
Bareilly ZLD objectiveZero liquid dischargeNext 500 days
License fee agreement endNo further payments to Israeli associate2025

Key Metrics

MetricQ1 FY23
Operating income₹234 crore, +1.7% YoY and +15% QoQ
Operating EBITDA₹17 crore, -52% YoY and -25% QoQ
Operating EBITDA margin7.06%, -796 bps YoY and -383 bps QoQ
Net profit after tax~₹8 crore, -63% YoY and -20% QoQ
PAT margin3.6%, -628 bps YoY and -157 bps QoQ
Production volume growth5% QoQ
Sales volume growth2% QoQ
FY23 revenue growth guidance5% to 7%
FY23 volume growth guidance5% to 10%
FY23 EBITDA margin guidance7% to 10%
Long-term EBITDA margin target15% to 17% (over ~5 years)
CAPEX asset turnover target1.5 to 1.7 times
Peak debt expected during CAPEX phase₹250–300 crore (including term loan, over ~1.5 years)
Baroda Greenfield facility commissioningEnd of H1 calendar 2023 (June 2023)
Mahad first plant commissioningEnd of H1 calendar 2023