Redington Ltd Q4 FY2023 Concall Summary

Key Takeaways

• Record revenue, profit, but PAT down: Global revenues hit an all-time high of INR21,893 crores (26% YoY) and operating profit reached INR590 crores (15% YoY), yet PAT declined 11% as higher interest costs and opex investments weighed on the bottom line.
• A tale of two demand pools: The PC and smartphone categories contracted sharply (down 29% and ~15% YoY respectively), while enterprise products and cloud surged over 38% and 61%, driven by data centre build-outs and back-to-office procurement.
• Digital platform is scaling, not yet saving: Close to 25% of India revenue now transacts digitally and the Cloud Quarks platform hit a 26.9 crore ARR, but management confirmed digital distribution does not yet reduce working capital investment.
• FX and macro headwinds are structural, not cyclical: With 15-20% of business in markets where currency exposure cannot be hedged, and borrowing rates at their highest since September 2007, the cost of doing business has reset higher even as supply-chain shortages ease.
• What to watch next quarter: Whether the inventory liquidation cycle in consumer products shortens as hoped, the pace of opex efficiency gains as digital adoption scales, and any stabilization in currency-repatriation markets like Nigeria and Egypt.

Demand & Category Dynamics

• Consumer products in correction: The PC industry declined 29% and smartphones ~15% YoY as the work-from-home demand cycle reversed, leaving elevated channel inventory that vendors are now reducing shipments to clear. Management expects subdued consumer buying for "a bit more time," though hopefully less than earlier anticipated.
• Enterprise infrastructure booming: Demand for data centre infrastructure (servers, storage, networking, software, security) and cloud products was robust, with the enterprise product category growing over 38% and cloud over 61% in Q4. Back-to-office mandates, datacentre procurement, and cloud migration were the catalysts.
• Geographic growth is broad but uneven: All operating regions (India, Middle East, Africa, Turkey, South Asia) contributed to growth, but currency devaluation in Egypt, Nigeria, Kenya, Ghana, Sri Lanka, and Bangladesh creates a sharp divide between reported and economic performance. Oil prices remaining stable at high levels positively impacts many operating countries.
• Supply-chain easing, with one exception: The shortage of technology products across the world has eased considerably, though delays in networking product delivery continue to impact large project business.
• Growth driver conviction: Management sees two structural tailwinds: digital transformation momentum from COVID is "almost irreversible," and the geographies Redington operates in are investment- and consumption-driven, with governments upgrading infrastructure and population migration driving tech consumption.

Rajiv Srivastava: "I think the momentum that has got created towards digital transformation during the COVID time is almost irreversible. You can't just plug it back anymore."

Digital Distribution Ambition

• Platform traction: In Q4, close to 25% of India revenue (INR9,900+ crores) was transacted digitally through Redington's partner and customer engagement platform. The Cloud Quarks platform reached an annualized recurring revenue of 26.9 crore in less than a year.
• Investment paying off, efficiency lagging: Management stated investments in cloud and digital platforms are becoming visible and starting to give strong returns, but clarified that digital distribution does not currently reduce working capital investment because the economic environment and nature of the business have not changed. Digital makes them more efficient and delivers better experience, but the underlying business dynamics remain the same.
• Opex trajectory: Over time, as more business converts to digital, operational efficiency is expected to increase, leading to much reduced operating opex versus technological opex. Technology infrastructure investments will continue without constraint: "they will not be starved of any investment, whatever it takes to get the digital transformation."
• Stated ambition: To become the number one digital distributor in the world, driven by a comprehensive vision of what digital distribution can do for the industry.

Rajiv Srivastava: "Our desire, you're right, is to be the number one digital distributor in the world, and I'm sure we're going to get there very soon, because of all the investments that we are making, but more importantly, because of the comprehensive vision that we have of what digital distribution can do for the industry that we are in, and it will be transformative."

Margin & Cost Structure

• Opex step-up: Operating expenses rose sequentially by INR70 crores, driven by investments in building capability in cloud and services, plus a forex loss in one market. Management indicated the other-expense line has moved from a INR90-100 crore range toward INR250-260 crores as these investments scale, though it declined to provide exact numbers.
• Interest cost reset: Interest rates have risen sharply across markets: nearly doubled in India, about 4x to 5x in Dubai. While low debt utilization previously meant networth was fully utilized without interest cost, any incremental working capital now carries materially higher interest expense. Management believes the rate-increase cycle is mostly done, with perhaps one more hike in the next 3-6 months before a downward trend begins.
• Working capital normalization largely complete: Some further increase in working capital is possible but not expected to be significant; the major part of the normalization process is over.
• Inventory provision dynamics: Inventory provisions were a negative 21 bps, while accounts receivable provisions were a positive 14 bps in the quarter.

Currency & Geopolitical Exposure

• Structural FX vulnerability: Between 15% and 20% of the business occurs in markets where Redington cannot cover foreign exchange exposure or does not transact in U.S. dollar terms. In countries like Nigeria and Egypt where remittance is not possible due to geopolitical challenges, currency exposure directly hits the business; management's response is to reduce impact and run down business, as was done in Sri Lanka, Egypt, and now Nigeria.
• Hedging where possible: Business is done largely in dollars, and forward contracts are used where available (e.g., India). In countries with dollar-pegged currencies, there is no FX exposure. In Turkey, business is conducted majorly in U.S. dollars. In markets without forex contracts, Redington sells at the prevailing rate and collects at the exchange rate on the date of collection.
• Macro backdrop: Global GDP growth is being called down, with a 70% probability of recession in the US and UK. Inflation is high but cooling, commodity prices remain elevated, and the cost of capital is significantly higher with borrowing rates at their highest since September 2007.

Competitive Positioning & Market Share

• Sustained outperformance: When the market was negative 25% and Redington was plus 25%, the delta was almost 50% for four consecutive quarters. Management attributes this to its go-to-market model, technology investments, and partner engagement, and holds itself accountable to continue growing faster than the market over time.
• Compuage disruption as opportunity: Compuage has reported disturbances in its business; it was distributing HP and some other products, and those volumes become available to Redington to manage and sell in the geographies where Compuage was present.
• Apple's direct entry seen as net positive: Apple setting up its own stores in India is expected to expand the overall Apple market in India, where Apple has a very small phone market share and even smaller PC and tablet share. Management expects market share expansion to be a gain for partners like Redington who sell a lot of Apple products, though it did not quantify Redington's specific Apple revenue share when asked.
• Seasonal mobility lift: Q3 and Q4 are always mobility-intensive quarters because Apple and most other mobility brands launch products in Q3, creating a cyclic lift in those quarters.

Rajiv Srivastava: "When the market is negative 25% and Redington is plus 25%, that means we had a shift between the market delta of almost 50% between us and the market. And this happens for 4 consecutive quarters."

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