SIS Ltd Q2 FY2026 Concall Summary

Source transcript PDF: https://www.stockscans.in/document/92wa1e5rdz60syjq60vdebbu.pdf

Key Takeaways


Segment Performance & Margin Trajectory

Sinha: "I'm saying that 6%, which used to be the pre-COVID margin profile, is quite likely. So, in both Security and FM, you will see that we have covered more than half the distance in terms of margin, 4% to 6%. We are around about 5.5% now. So maybe 3/4 of the job is done. I think the remaining will fall through in due course, hopefully, within the next few quarters."

AP Securitas Acquisition

Sinha: "I see AP Securitas as a transaction that will consolidate our market share and give us edge into some key segments like banking, like logistics and warehousing, which will further consolidate our market position in these key high-growth segments."

International Business Dynamics

Sinha: "Absolutely not sustainable. This is one-off. Australian GDP grows at 2%, 3% per annum. Our growth rate over the last 10 years on average has been more than 7%, close to 8% maybe. So, we are growing twice as fast as the Australian GDP, 2x Australian GDP is our growth."

India Growth & Demand Drivers

Sinha: "I believe that sooner than later, the Government will have to shift focus from simply the Agri sector and MSP and the whole kisan agenda to the blue-collar worker agenda because ultimately, India needs a shift from farm to nonfarm organised jobs."

Capital Allocation & Upcoming Events


Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
India Security & FM margin targetBoth segments to reach 6% EBITDA margin (pre-COVID profile)"Hopefully, within the next few quarters"
International margin targetGet business back to 4% EBITDA range"Coming quarters," longer than India to reach 6%
AP Securitas synergy extractionSavings from 100-branch rationalization to yield significant margin tractionOver next 2 years, bit by bit each quarter
India Security margin including APSCombined security services business to deliver 6% EBITDA marginNo date; organic moving 4%→6%, APS initially at zero synergy
DSO correctionOne-time increase in SIS International to reverseFrom next quarter
International growth normalizationMid-teens growth is one-off; sustainable rate is 7-8% annually (2x Australian GDP)Ongoing from FY27
Revenue mix shiftIndia to reach ~75% of EBITDA, ~65% of revenues; India revenue INR 850-900 crore next quarterBy year-end

Key Metrics

MetricQ2 FY26
Consolidated revenue₹3,759 cr, highest ever, +15% YoY
Consolidated monthly revenue run rate₹1,300 cr, highest ever
India Security revenue₹1,544 cr, highest ever, +11.5% YoY
Facility Management revenue₹629 cr, highest ever, +13.7% YoY
International Security revenue₹1,607 cr, highest ever, +19.3% YoY
Consolidated EBITDA₹168 cr, +16.2% YoY; margin 4.5%
India Security EBITDA margin5.3%, dip of 20 bps YoY due to branding costs from Q1 FY25
Facility Management EBITDA margin5.2%, +90 bps YoY; EBITDA ₹33 cr, +36% YoY
International Business EBITDA marginFlattish YoY; EBITDA up 20.4% YoY
Operating PAT₹93 cr; PAT margin 2.5%, flattish QoQ
ROCE14.3%, up from 11.7% a year ago
Net debt₹663 cr, down ₹193 cr, 23% reduction from ₹857 cr in September 2024
DSO69 days, 1-day increase due to a one-time situation in SIS International
AP Securitas monthly revenue run rate₹110 cr; expected to add ~17% to India Security monthly run rate from Q3
AP Securitas acquisition consideration₹71.2 cr for 51% stake, after adjustment of net debt
India Security headcount200,000-plus people, 170 branches
Facility Management headcount85,000 people, 90 branches
Industry attrition rateApprox. 40% to 45%
Wage inflation (India, post-COVID 5-year average)~5%, down from ~11% 10-year average
India revenue growth compositionTwo-third from volumes, one-third from price
International Business long-term growth rate7% to 8% annual; FY26 mid-teens growth is one-off
International Business margin benchmark4% to 4.5% historically; currently back at 3.5%
India share of consolidated EBITDA (projected by year-end)~75% of EBITDA, ~65% of revenues