Somany Ceramics Ltd Q2 FY2023 Concall Summary

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Key Takeaways


The Demand Disconnect

Abhishek Somany: “I really can't pinpoint anything which has muted the demand we can keep arguing as to what happens, but I do not have a specific answer. ... if you had to ask me, I really do not have any specific answer as to why demand has slowed down all of a sudden.”

Margin Mechanics: Fuel, Mix and Operating Leverage

Abhishek Somany: “If you haven't seen a price decrease now, I doubt we'll see a price decrease later.”

The H2 Recovery Bet

Abhishek Somany: “We've gone through many cycles with so many years in business, and we've seen some very poor years in the last 15, 20 years. And in every scenario, H2 has always been 10% to 15% better than H1 in the worst of years in the best of the year.”

Capacity, Sourcing and Brand Investments


Export Opportunity and Competitive Dynamics

Abhishek Somany: “...we are in a sector where we are sharing off market share from all other products like natural stone, wood, etcetera. So from that point of view, nothing is to be worried on a long term, even on a medium term perspective.”

Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
Full-year sales growth15–20% (high teens)FY23
Full-year revenue growth15%FY23
Volume growthDouble-digitFY23
Sanitaryware & faucet growth30%-plusFY23
LPG conversionReach 60–62% of linesEnd of November 2022
MAX plant capacity addition~0.4–0.45 crore sq m, total capacity ~7.7 crore sq mAround July 2023 (mid-Q2 FY24)
Gas price regimeSoftening expected, another INR 3–4 decrease overallNext six months at least
Margin improvementOperating margins increasing from Q3 onward, driven by LPG conversion and gas softeningStarting Q3 FY23
Consolidated debt reduction~INR 45–50 crore annual repayment; no specific reduction plan beyond scheduled amortizationYoY
Brand spendRemain at ~2% of revenueOngoing
Further significant capacity expansion decision“Probably six months down the line” once demand depth is better assessed~H1 CY2023

Key Metrics

MetricQ2 FY23
Revenue growth9.3% YoY
Volume growthFlattish YoY
EBITDAHit by power and fuel costs; no price increases taken since beginning of the year
Inventory days~45 days, up from 34–35 days
Gas price (blended)Up INR 5 QoQ, almost 100% YoY; North ~INR 65, Morbi ~INR 65, South ~INR 75
Current gas price~INR 60–62, expected to decline further
LPG conversion50% of units on LPG in Q2, expected 60–62% by end of November
Current natural gas price~INR 64; LPG ~INR 50–52
Tiles capacity utilization~88%
Sanitaryware capacity utilization~45%, seasonally muted due to rain shutdown
Faucet capacity utilization93%
PVT share of tiles28%, down from 34% YoY
GVT share of tiles33%, up from 28% YoY
Ceramic share of tiles39%, up from 38% YoY
Sanitaryware and bath fitting growth3% YoY; sanitaryware 2%, bath fitting ~5%
Brand spend~2% of revenue
Net dealer addition (H1 FY23)~150
Price increase~2–2.5% taken in June/early July; no further increases in Q2
FY23 revenue growth outlook15% (full year)
Sanitaryware and faucets growth outlook30%-plus for FY23
Export expectation (industry)Grow to ~17,000–18,000 from 12,000–12,500 last year
Antidumping duty (Europe on India)7%
Industry size estimate (FY23)INR 38,000–40,000 crores, of which ~INR 18,000 crores exports
Domestic industry size (FY23)~INR 22,000 crores, flat YoY (per an analyst's math)
Own production capacity6.2–6.3 crore square meters; total accessible capacity 7.3 crore sq m
MAX plant capacity addition~0.4–0.45 crore square meters, expected by mid-Q2 next year
Net debt~INR 359 crores (per an analyst's math)
Annual consolidated debt repayment~INR 45–50 crores
Routine/balancing capex (annual)~INR 40 crores
Employee fraud recoveryHalf the amount recovered; rest pending