Somany Ceramics Ltd Q3 FY2024 Concall Summary

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Key Takeaways


Demand Environment

Abhishek Somany: "There has been aberration this quarter. I have not seen this kind of quarter in some time so -- but it's okay, part of the game. Not overly worried as long as we keep our focus on the balance sheet, keep our focus on our quality and the Max plant launching."

Profitability & Cost Structure


Growth Initiatives: Max Plant & COVERSTONE

Abhishek Somany: "We are actually not calling it a tile, although it is ceramic, but it is called COVERSTONE. So the brand positioning is also changing to that effect."

Segment Performance

SegmentTrendCommentary
Tiles (own + JV)▼ SoftCapacity utilisation fell to ~82%; demand tanked in North; traded volumes rose but reflect Sudha Somany and Somany Piastrelle subs, not third-party sourcing.
Sanitaryware / Bathware▬ Slow growthGrowth constrained because consumers still think of Hindware, Parryware, Cera, Kohler first; at ₹300 cr scale, 20%–25% growth would need unsustainable ad spend. Next year: 12%–16% growth "pretty certainly."
Adhesives / Construction Chemicals▲ Aggressive buildBeing grown aggressively as a construction chemical division going forward.
Exports▼ Small & softUnder 3% of revenue; Q3 was bad because Europe shut down for Christmas; Red Sea disruption expected to weigh on the next quarter too.
Abhishek Somany: "So if you want to buy, let's say, Sanitaryware, you're not thinking of Astral or you're not thinking Asian Paints. They also make the same thing."

Balance Sheet & Capital Allocation


Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
Q4 revenue growth5%–6% YoY growth, ~1.85 cr sqm volumeQ4 FY24
Q4 EBITDA margin10%, maybe a little more depending on salesQ4 FY24
Full-year next-year EBITDA10%+FY25
Next-year revenue growth5%–6% higher than industry growthFY25
Capacity utilisationUpwards of 90%FY25
Bathware growth12%–16%FY25
Gas cost range46%–47% (gas only, not blended)Q4 FY24
SREI bonds balance recoveryBalance of ~₹3.3 cr receivedNext couple of quarters
Solar power benefitFrom Haryana plant SPVQ3 FY25
Nepal commercial productionPlant operationalQ3 FY25
Next capex announcementCapacity augmentation12–18 months from now
Advertising spendMaintained at 2.75% of annual revenueOngoing

Key Metrics

MetricQ3 FY24
Revenue growthFlattish, muted growth in line with most of the industry
EBITDA marginBelow 10%, would have been 10%+ but for lower stand-alone capacity utilization
Capacity utilization (tiles)82%, down from 91% in Q2
Overall capacity utilization81%
Gas cost (natural gas only)~44% of cost, expected 46%–47% in Q4
Gas cost – North₹42 per SCM
Gas cost – Morbi₹47 per SCM
Gas cost – South₹54 per SCM
GVT mix34%, up from 32%
Ceramic mix36%, down from prior
Bathware growth8% overall; bath fittings 16%, Sanitaryware near 3%
Sanitaryware capacity utilization60%
Faucets capacity utilization80%, better than last quarter
Net distribution addition~300 new dealers, in line with last year
Advertising spend~3% higher than rest of spend; maintained at 2.75% of annual spend
Total JV debt (stand-alone, no Somany guarantee)₹324 cr; Sudha Somany ₹140 cr, Max plant ₹85 cr
Share buyback₹125 cr, oversubscribed ~6x
SREI bonds recovery₹4.61 cr resolution award on ₹18.44 cr exposure; ₹1.3 cr already received
Solar power investment (Haryana plant)₹3.76 cr
Q4 FY24 growth guidance5%–7%
FY25 growth guidance5%–6% higher than industry growth
Q4 FY24 EBITDA margin guidanceBetween current figure and 10%, maybe a little more depending on sales
FY25 capacity utilization expectationUpwards of 90%
Capex next 12 months₹15–20 cr for Nepal project plus routine capex
Max plant commercial production start29 January 2024
Max plant peak revenue potential (100% value-added)₹275–280 cr
Max plant asset turns~1.7x–1.8x
Export share of revenueUnder 3%
Full-year export estimate~₹60–65 cr
Morbi capacity utilizationUnder 70%
Consol working capital utilization (subsidiaries incl. Max)Less than ₹100 cr
Consol term loan repayment₹35–40 cr annually over next 3–4 years
Paying agent arrangementClose to ₹200 cr, up from ~₹59 cr in FY23
Short-term borrowing (stand-alone)Zero, down from ₹150 cr in March '23
Net debt₹172 cr, down from ₹429 cr YoY
Access to capacity8 cr sqm (6.2 cr sqm own plant & JV + 1.8 cr sqm outsourced)
Capacity increase over 24 months~25%–26%
Q4 FY24 volume target~1.85 cr sqm
January demand growthLow-single digits