Somany Ceramics Ltd Q2 FY2025 Concall Summary

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Key Takeaways


Demand & Volume

Abhishek Somany: "It has been a very muted H1 and a muted quarter. It has been weak domestic demand which got impacted largely by lower exports, which means that material was being dumped into India and also incessant rains across the country between July, August and September."

Pricing & Realization


Operational Performance


Export Dynamics & Recovery

Abhishek Somany: "This is the vicious cycle where export not happening puts pressure on the pricing, putting pressure on pricing, the shopkeepers are very weary of what is going to happen next. Therefore, they are stocking less. Therefore, they are stocking some vanilla items."

Margins & Cost Outlook

Abhishek Somany: "The downside risk is that we won't be able to increase our EBITDA from 1%-1.5%. It would probably be at the same EBITDA level. That is the downside. Fortunately, we are not debt company."

Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
Volume growth5%–6.5% for full year; H2 at high single-digit to low double-digitFY25
EBITDA marginImprove 1%–1.5% from current levels, in line with last yearFY25, conditional on no gas-price shock and branding at 2.5%
Max plant utilizationImprove from 36% toward 50% target, aided by two new launchesBy year-end FY25
Solar SPV benefit₹1.5–₹2 cr annual benefitStarts quickly after Haryana government approval
Export recoveryFreight rates already declining; next export window for Europe/USDecember shipment, January port arrival

Key Metrics

MetricQ2 FY25
Revenue growth2.6% YoY
Operating margin8.5%, same as Q1
Gross margin33.3%, declined from 35.2% YoY
EBITDA margin guidanceUp 1%-1.5% from current levels in H2, in line with last year's EBITDA
Full-year volume growth guidance5%-6.5% (mid single digits); H1 growth was approx 0.6%-0.7%
Tile segment volume growth2.6% YoY
Bathware segment revenue growth10% YoY; sanitaryware Rs 38 cr up 9%, bath fittings Rs 32 cr up 12%
GVT share of tile mix38%, up from 34% YoY
Ceramic share of tile mix34%, down from 36% YoY
Capacity utilization (consolidated)77%, down from 81% in Q1 and 88% YoY
Bathware capacity utilization82%
Faucet capacity utilization100%
Max plant capacity utilization36%, vs expected 50%; about 12%-13% lower than expected for Q2
Brand spend2% of sales; guidance to remain at 2.5%
Working capital days13 days in H1, vs 8 days in March 2024
Debtor days45 days, vs 48 days in FY24
Inventory days55 days, vs 49 days in FY24
Creditor days76 days, vs 79 days in FY24
Total debtRs 315 cr; term loan Rs 200 cr with Rs 40 cr maturity this year, net term debt Rs 160 cr at year-end
Working capital debtRs 115 cr
Retail vs project sales mix75% retail, 25% project; shifting from 80% retail previously
Project business growth~25% implied from 5 ppt mix shift
Average realization pressureRs 4 per sq m decline, fully mitigated by product mix improvement
Solar SPV investmentRs 3.7 cr, expected benefit Rs 1.5-Rs 2 cr
Total capex deployed (last 30-35 months)Rs 500 cr