Somany Ceramics Ltd Q3 FY2025 Concall Summary

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Key Takeaways


Demand: A Bifurcated Market

Abhishek Somany: "It is a little perplexing. I think this is a deferred purchase, and there is an overall slowdown in the economy."

Margins: Holding the Line

Abhishek Somany: "So yes, with the capacity utilization going up and my value-added mix only improving, you can very clearly see it improving. That's why our margins have remained the same."

Portfolio Reshaping: Exits and a New Entry

Abhishek Somany: "So it was only prudent to get out of this JV, so that we can source better, smarter, cheaper from regional sources and get some profit in the bottom line."

Segment Performance

SegmentTrendCommentary
Sunrise (tiles, sanitaryware, fittings)▲ GrowingReached 38% of revenue, up from 34% last year; on track to cross 40% soon.
Bathware▲ OutperformingSales grew 8.5% while other manufacturers were flat or negative.
Retail▲ Volume growthAll growth this quarter came from retail, as builders and exports did not grow.
Projects▬ Orders secured, supplies pendingStrong order intake from residential and commercial builders; bulk supplies to begin Q1/Q2.
Exports▼ NegativeIndustry exports dropped sharply; Morbi cluster bore the brunt.

Capacity & Manufacturing


Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
Revenue growthMid- to high single digits for FY25; Q4 slightly better than Q3FY25, with Q4 as next data point
Volume growthHigh single digits to low double digits (revised down from low-to-mid double digits due to muted H1)FY25/FY26
EBITDA marginMaintain or improve slightly, depending on sales volumeOngoing
Margin uplift from volume1-1.5% improvement if volumes grow high single digit to low double digitAt steady state with current pricing and mix
Sunrise segment shareCross 40% of revenue"Very soon"
Brand spendMaintained at 2.5% of revenueOngoing
Project sales rampBulk supplies from builder order book to beginQ1/Q2 FY26
Construction chemicals ownershipMove from 51% to 100%Next 3-5 years
Sanitaryware major expansionCapacity expansion to be detailed post Q3 next yearNext 12-18 months
Somany Max plantFurther launch to increase utilisation beyond 51%March or early April 2025

Key Metrics

MetricQ3 FY25
Revenue growth4.5% YoY
Operating margin8.4%, similar to Q2 FY25; down from 9.7% YoY
Gross margin improvement1.4% in Q3
PBT and PATDown YoY
Exceptional gain₹9.42 cr from disinvestment of 2 JVs
Capital released from JV exits₹20 cr
Total debt (incl. JVs)₹299 cr, comprising term loan ₹58 cr, current maturities ₹41 cr, working capital ₹101 cr
Asset turnover (consol)2.3x
Capacity utilization (tiles)Above 80%, up from 77%
Gas price movementUp ~4% in Q3
Average gas price₹45 (Q3 FY25) vs ₹44 (Q3 FY24 and FY24 full year); North ₹43, West ₹49, South ₹51
Sunrise segment share38% of sales, up from 34% in Q3 FY24
Bathware sales growth~8.5% in Q3
Bathware capacity utilization87% for sanitaryware, optimum for faucets
Brand spends2.5% of sales
Net dealer additions (9M FY25)134 dealers
Showroom additions (9M FY25)46 showrooms
Somany Max capacity utilization51%
Somany Max revenue potential₹250+ cr at optimum utilization, currently at roughly half
Retail sales mix~79%, expected to move to ~75% as private builder share rises 2-3 ppt
Project mix10-11% government, 8-9% private projects, 3% export
Fittings production~₹5.5 cr per month, running at ~110% capacity
Normalized quarterly depreciation₹19-20 cr (Q3 had ₹3-4 cr incremental accelerated depreciation)
Own and JV tile production growth~5% YoY (per an analyst's math)
Own and JV tile sales volume de-growth7% YoY in Q3 (per an analyst's math)
Outsourced tile sales volume growth35% YoY (per an analyst's math)