Symphony Ltd Q2 FY2023 Concall Summary

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Key Takeaways


Topline & Channel Dynamics

Bakeri: "That is one sort of vertical, which is constantly growing. Because the potential is huge, and we are merely sort of I would say we have just begun now, scratch the surface."

Margin Walk & Cost Headwinds

Bakeri: "Largely on account of the significant increase in tertiary sales. Primary sales from the company to the channel grew. But the growth in tertiary sales from the channel out to the consumer was significantly higher. And because of all the pent-up inventory that had built up over the last two years also got sold out. So the warranty expense incurred to service, that much higher tertiary sales is reflecting here."

Pricing, Trade Support & Margin Recovery Path

Bakeri: "It is like somebody is on oxygen then you to wean away the oxygen. You can't simply pull away the tube."

Climate Technologies: Deferred, Not Lost

Shah: "Many times, you know, just quarterly performance may be skewed because many times due to a variety of factors and reasons, business doesn't happen just quarter-to-quarter. So the fair view is annual performance and that's what I'm trying to convey."

International Expansion & Subsidiaries


Capital Allocation


Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
Climate Technologies recoveryFull-year performance in line with or better than FY22FY23 full year (annual performance, not specifically FY23)
Warranty expenseIncremental warranty expense as a percentage of sales will continueDecember and March quarters
A&P spendFull-year A&P as percentage of sales to settle around historical average or slightly higherFY23 full year
Margin normalizationArrive at desired pricing, margins, and trade support levelsBy summer (~2 quarters)
EBITDA margin aspirationReach pre-COVID level EBITDA margin percentageOver a period of time (no date)
Gross margin improvementImprove gross margin in a phased mannerPhased (no date)
Price increasesCalibrated price increases on upgraded 20-plus SKU modelsOngoing
International expansionOrganic entry into Southeast Asia, Latin America, and MENAUnder evaluation / early traction
Inorganic growthNot actively lookingCurrent stance
BuybackMay happen down the line; no immediate planWhen financial performance improves
Payout policy50% of PAT, via dividend or buybackOngoing

Key Metrics

MetricQ2 FY23
Consolidated revenueUp 24% YoY
Standalone revenue₹215 cr, up from ₹140 cr
Consolidated PAT₹32 cr, up 6% YoY
Standalone PAT₹45 cr, up from ₹32 cr
Consolidated EBITDA marginDown 4+ ppt YoY; one-time expenses, freight, warranty
Standalone EBITDA marginDown 3+ ppt YoY
Gross margin (H1)Marginally higher YoY on consolidated and standalone basis
India sales share of consolidated revenue69%
Rest of world sales~₹84 cr, in line with Sep '21
Average capital employed (standalone + subs)₹192 cr
Standalone capital employedNegative ₹89 cr, driven by off-season collections
Interim dividend₹2 per share (100%), second interim, amounting to ₹14 cr
One-time marketing and freight costs~₹6 cr market research/marketing, ~₹3 cr Brazil freight, both standalone
Climate Technologies performanceSales deferred to Dec and Mar quarters; negative profitability in Q2
GSK China overhead reductionDown ~35%, breaking even at EBITDA level in H1