Techno Electric & Engineering Company Ltd Q1 FY2024 Concall Summary

Key Takeaways

• Morning has arrived, growth is back: After three lost years, management declared a decisive turn, guiding standalone EPC revenue to ₹1,500–₹1,600 crores for FY24 and an order backlog of ~₹6,000 crores by March 2024.
• The order book is building fast: A ₹350 crore PGCIL win landed in Q1, with L1 positions worth ~₹3,650 crores across transmission and AMI, setting the stage for a multi-year upcycle.
• Subsidiary noise masks the core: Consolidated margins dropped sharply because AMI and data centre SPVs are pre-revenue, creating a ₹72 crore cost drag that management says will neutralise by March 2024.
• Data centre is a dual-play catalyst: The Chennai build is delayed to Dec/March 2024, but strategic investor interest is aggressive, with a JV or buyout targeted before year-end.
• What to watch next quarter: Whether the ₹1,500 crore transmission and ₹2,000 crore AMI L1 orders convert to booked orders, the pace of AMI meter commissioning that unlocks revenue, and any concrete data centre deal announcement.

The Turnaround Call

• Growth momentum declared: Management stated the three-year difficult period is over and a growth phase has begun, expected to continue for the next three years.
• Standalone EPC guidance: Revenue is guided to ₹1,500–₹1,600 crores for FY24, with quarterly topline of ₹400 crores minimum from the current quarter, potentially reaching ₹500 crores in the last two quarters.
• Order backlog ambition: The company targets at least ₹4,000 crores of business this year and an order backlog of ~₹6,000 crores by March 2024.
• The bet is on sectoral tailwinds: Transmission bidding has revived to 50 GW+ (potentially 75–100 GW+), with 4–5 concessions awarded monthly, while the RDSS scheme is driving AMI tenders every week.

P.P. Gupta: "all difficulties of last three, four years are behind us and as I said that morning has arrived and we will focus on growth that is what we are looking on."

Order Book & L1 Pipeline

The near-term revenue visibility rests on converting a large L1 pipeline into booked orders and then into commissioned meters. The ₹350 crore PGCIL order is a start; the L1 positions are materially larger.

• Transmission pipeline: Management expects to secure ₹1,000–₹1,500 crores every year for the next 3–5 years from the substation business alone, which is 25–30% of total transmission spend.
• AMI pipeline: The company expects business worth no less than ₹2,000 crores every year from RDSS/AMI and targets 0.5 crore (0.5 crore) meters over the next three years.
• Revenue conversion caution: L1 orders under RDSS carry a 27-month implementation timeline, so revenue contribution this year will be very marginal; new business won in transmission and AMI will be eligible for revenue booking this year.

The Subsidiary Drag: AMI & Data Centre

• The ₹72 crore gap: The difference between consolidated and standalone performance is 95% AMI and 5% data centre, driven by pre-revenue SPVs that carry overheads, manpower and infrastructure costs with no offsetting revenue or capitalised capex.
• AMI revenue recognition mechanics: Revenue is booked only when the SPV is eligible (meter commissioned with the utility, able to bill the consumer); the parent does not bill the SPV until then, creating a lag of up to three months for system acceptance testing. In Q1, AMI EBITDA was entirely off the books because of this lag.
• Data centre cost-to-cost accounting: The Chennai data centre is below the 20% completion threshold for pro-rata billing, so costs are booked on a cost-to-cost basis with no profit recognition. Civil and structural work is nearly complete; electromechanical work will take another six months.
• Neutralisation timeline: Management expects these ambiguities to be neutralised by Q2 and 100% by March 2024, at which point all subsidiaries will be fully capitalised and executed.
• AMI execution ramp: The company is hopeful of achieving eligibility for 1.5 lakh meters by September end; additionally, 2.5 lakh meters out of the 20 lakh meter L1 orders will be executed this year.

Data Centre: Strategic Optionality

• Chennai Phase 1 delayed: Commissioning has shifted from September to December 2024, or maximum March 2024, because civil and structural work spilled over due to rains, local factors and labour issues.
• Cost tailwind: The commodity cycle is favourable and equipment is more competitively available, offering a potential saving of 5% versus escalation.
• Strategic investor interest: Aggressive interest from strategic investors for a JV or buyout of the Chennai data centre is under evaluation; due diligence with one very large investor is in progress, and management is hopeful of concluding a deal before the close of this financial year.
• The EPC proof-of-concept: Management framed the first data centre as a demonstration that Techno is capable of EPC in this space, a credential foreign entities previously did not accept because the company had never done such work.
• Pipeline beyond Chennai: Land allotment is awaited in Kolkata for the next data centre; Hyderabad is the location after that. The company targets around 250 megawatts by 2030.

Ankit Saraiya: "it is expected that about \$75 billion of investment will go into developing AI models over the next five to seven years by all the companies involved in this sector and to cater to that requirement almost \$500 billion of data centres are required by 2030 and this is limited to just AI"

Segment Dynamics

• FGD financial protection: All FGD contracts carry price variation clauses and time overrun compensation clauses, so delays are not financially damaging. The company is hopeful of doing ₹500 crores this year if the state government supports financially, otherwise less.
• Power sector at an inflection: The Electricity Act amendment (December 2022) is in place and the central government is taking a larger role; management believes the financial health of the sector is likely to improve if reforms are implemented in spirit.

P.P. Gupta: "In totality I will say that the power sector continues to be at a critical juncture as uptake, which we have been hoping for last five, seven years and I am very hopeful that something good is going to happen going forward and which is visible now."

Margins & Capital

• Margin guidance: Standalone EBITDA margin should be 13% plus/minus; by March 2024, all subsidiaries will be fully capitalised and executed, removing the current consolidated margin ambiguities.
• Wind asset sale proceeds: ₹450 crores realised from the sale of wind assets in Tamil Nadu, now part of cash on the balance sheet.
• AMI investor interest: Investors are approaching Techno to invest in the AMI business to acquire a majority position, similar to GIC's deal with Genus and Polaris with Gram Power.

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