Texmaco Rail & Engineering Ltd Q1 FY2024 Concall Summary

Key Takeaways

• A quarter of deliberate resets: Revenue dipped QoQ on brake-system supply disruption and a conscious provision against a Railway order tranche, while management surrendered another tranche and pivoted the EPC mix away from low-margin track-laying.
• One-time provision clouds the P&L: A provision for foreseeable financial implications on a deferred Railway contract hit EBITDA; management argues the clauses are unreasonable and will contest the amount, but no clarity yet on whether further hits are possible.
• Wagon production is back on a 500+/month trajectory: The brake-system bottleneck is resolved, and management is confident of sustaining and surpassing 500 wagons per month, with an aspiration to reach 700–800.
• The balance sheet is being repositioned for the next leg: A ₹500 cr fundraise, a Rail EPC demerger, a new components SBU, and European JV manufacturing are all in motion, signalling a structural reorganisation rather than just a cyclical recovery.
• What to watch next quarter: Whether the 40,000–50,000 wagon Railway tender materialises and at what margin the company bids, any resolution or reversal of the provision, and the pace of the private-sector wagon ramp-up.

Wagon Production & Supply Chain

• Q1 disruption: A supply chain bottleneck for brake systems from a single dedicated Railway-approved source, combined with certain design issues, pulled production below potential and caused the QoQ turnover dip. The problem is now sorted.
• Current run-rate: The company has started touching 500 wagons per month and is confident of consistently doing so and even surpassing that figure.
• Medium-term ambition: Management is working to reach 700–800 wagons per month with immediate effect, though it stopped short of giving a formal forecast.
• Private sector push: A dedicated setup now targets the domestic private sector, where ~200 rakes of orders are available in the market. Private wagons are priced higher, so margins will be superior, though management declined to quantify the delta.

Sudipta Mukherjee: "I will not say today, it's not about a forecast. I've given a glimpse from which you have been able to calculate, I am happy. And in fact, we are working in and around -- to achieve that in and around with immediate effect."

Railway Order Book & the Provision

• The provision: A provision was taken against a tranche of an Indian Railways contract where the company was executing ahead of schedule. Railways opted for deferment or to start the first tranche earlier, triggering foreseeable financial implications under the contract. Management made a conscious decision to provide now and start with a fresh listing.
• Contesting the amount: Management believes certain clauses are not very reasonable and has strong grounds to argue the quantum. Discussions with Railways are ongoing, but no assurance was given that further P&L hits will not occur.
• Tranche 2 surrender: The company consciously surrendered the second tranche of the 20,000+ wagon order received in May 2022, calling it a judicious financial decision. Tranche 1 was executed successfully; Tranche 3 is currently under execution.
• Next tender: Railways is expected to float a tender for 40,000–50,000 wagons. Management expects to capture a share of 20–25%, consistent with its historical L1-driven share of a little under 30%. It will prioritise wagons that give better margins.
• Capacity and funding: Management sees no challenge in taking on additional orders and stated that if Railways floats another tender within 18 months after the 40,000-wagon order, no further fundraise would be needed.

Indrajit Mookerjee: "we made a conscious decision about this provision. And also, we wanted to be absolutely transparent in saying, that we felt that this amount that we have decided to make a provision for the time being, we have to discuss with railways further. So we are doing that because there are certain clauses which are not very reasonable. But in order to go forward, we decided that we will make this a provision, but we'll continue to discuss with railways, because we think we have very strong grounds for -- to argue on this amount."

Rail EPC Restructuring

• Demerger, not slump sale: The Board recommended demerging the Rail EPC division (comprising Bright Power and Kalindee) into a separate entity. The rationale: different management teams are needed for EPC versus rail engineering and steel foundry, and the brick-and-mortar EPC business requires distinct focus.
• Kalindee pivot: The company has consciously stopped pursuing large track-laying jobs because they involve heavy capital deployment and get stuck on third-party dependencies like earthwork and river bridges. Volume will be lower but the bottom-line impact is neutral since track-laying was a low-margin business. Focus is shifting to signalling, last-mile track, and Automatic Fare Collection.
• Bright Power growth: The division is progressing constantly and targets to more than double in the near future, with a new era of orders targeting the export market.

Ashok Vijay: "we are not doing much on the track laying on the ground... that is a low margin business, where we would not like to focus rather, we will put our resources... into the business and where the markets are better, and we can really do a better performance."

Strategic Initiatives & Capital Allocation

• ₹500 cr fundraise: The Board gave in-principle approval to raise up to ₹500 crores in one or more tranches. Proceeds are earmarked for working capital in Heavy Engineering and Steel Foundry, the Rail EPC division, reducing high-cost borrowings, and capital expenditures. The mode and exact quantum are being worked out with financial advisers.
• European JVs: New European joint ventures will start manufacturing wagons and other freight industry components in the coming days. Production processes and systems are already made in 3 or 4 cases; a new JV plant will take a few months to set up.
• Components SBU: A new strategic business unit for components has been created, described as a logical step toward eventually building competencies for the passenger rail segment.
• Steel Foundry expansion: Further capex is being invested, with production expected to increase in the next 3 months, and additional plans for the steel foundry in coming years.
• Export tailwinds: European demand is rising as supply from Ukraine has dried up, and the company is seeing strong export of foundry products to the US. A separate team is now dedicated to the export market.

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