Uflex Ltd Q3 FY2023 Concall Summary

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Key Takeaways


The Q3 Profitability Shock

Rajesh Bhatia: “I’ll have to use the word, probably the entire universe conspired to reduce the margin.”

India Packaging: The Diversification Payoff

Rajesh Bhatia: “I don’t sort of -- I look at this quarter’s performance from a positive perspective in the looking at the Packaging business, Flexible Packaging, which has not been doing so well in the few years.”

Packaging Films: A Margin Floor in Sight

Rajesh Bhatia: “I don’t think so, there is anymore room left to reduce the margin in both of them.”

Balance Sheet & Capex

Rajesh Bhatia: "Whenever there are such scenarios, I think the bankers do understand that and will be hopeful that we will get waivers from them, because they also understand the situation in the European territory, particularly where the cost of energy has hit us, not only us, but across all the industries..."

Aseptic Packaging: The Hidden Growth Story


Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
Offshore business recoveryBusiness expected to be "back on track""Another quarter or two"
Dharwad BOPET commercial production68,000 TPA addition; trial runs underway, power issue being resolvedEnd-March / first week of April
Asepto capacity expansionDebottleneck from 900 to ~1,200 crore packs/year"Definitely in the next season"
FY23 full-year EBITDA~₹2,100 crores, ~13.8% margin without exchange impactFY23
FY24 margin guidanceWill be provided after seeing Q4 performanceAfter Q4 FY23
Overseas subsidiary listing reassessmentEarliest window for any opportunityQ3 FY24
BOPP/BOPET margin recovery"Only positive development from here" expected"Not in Q4 but definitely in Q1"
Debt trajectoryNo substantial addition expected; additions roughly match amortizationOngoing

Key Metrics

MetricQ3 FY23
Consolidated revenue₹3,496 cr, marginally up ~0.6% QoQ
Consolidated EBITDA (excl. exchange fluctuation)₹429 cr, down ~28% YoY
EBITDA margin (9M, excl. exchange losses)~14%
EBITDA margin (9M, after exchange)~13.1%
Full-year FY23 EBITDA guidance~₹2,100 cr, implying ~13.8% margin without exchange impact
Foreign-exchange losses~₹236 cr aggregate, including Egypt devaluation and translation/restatement losses
Egypt devaluation impact22.3% on 27th October; ₹84 cr taken as exceptional item
India business volume growth~13% overall
India Packaging business volume growth~34%
India Packaging business revenue growth~20%
Packaging Films sales volume~1,40,000 tons, approx. 6–7% sequential decline (per an analyst's math)
Aseptic Packaging capacity utilization (January)~130%
Aseptic Packaging current run-rate900 cr packs/year; debottlenecking target to 1,200 cr packs/year
Asepto EBITDA margin~20% blended average, sustainable
Net debt₹4,460 cr as of 31st December, including working capital and long-term, less cash
Consolidated interest cost₹133 cr in Q3, implying ~12% cost of debt on net debt of ~₹4,500 cr
India interest cost₹45 cr in Q3, vs ₹41 cr last quarter and ₹40 cr a year before
Finance cost sequential increase26% higher QoQ