Uflex Ltd Q1 FY2024 Concall Summary

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Key Takeaways


The Nigeria Shock & Currency Exposure

Bhatia: "It is about Rs.382 Crores in this quarter where the currency has moved from about ₦460 (Nigerian Naira) to a dollar to about ₦750 (Nigerian Naira) to a dollar and that explains us this exceptional item because our borrowings there are in dollar and that has impacted the profitability at the bottom line."

Margin Walk & Recovery Path

Bhatia: "I think if we first target 12% to 13% and then look at consolidating from there that will be the right approach so in about a year's time I think or in the Q4 of this year on a run rate basis if we can achieve that I think that will be good."

Volume & Demand Dynamics

Bhatia: "India can take care of about two new plants each year without disturbing the market so I think India should correct itself in about six months time, but it will not go back to those dizzy heights what we have seen in."

Strategic Projects: Backward Integration & Capacity Expansion

Bhatia: "During the COVID period, during tough times while availability was an issue, in European business we have almost paid three and a half times of our normal prices that were add on prices for the PET chips during this COVID period as compared to what we were paying earlier."

US IPO & Valuation Ambitions

Bhatia: "I think it was nowhere close to the current valuations of the UFlex that you see in India. It was much, much, much higher. I cannot share the numbers, but definitely those markets were pricing in a much different way."

Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
EBITDA margin recoveryCombined EBITDA margin to reach 12-13% on a run-rate basisQ4 FY24
Aseptic capacity expansionDebottlenecking to 1,200 crore packs operationalApril 2024 (possibly January)
Aseptic utilization target100% capacity utilization of expanded 1,200 crore pack capacityFY25
Panipat PET chip plantBackward integration facility operationalEnd of FY24
Egypt PET chip plantBackward integration facility operational, 6-8 months after PanipatH1 FY25
Sequential improvementQ2 FY24 to be better than Q1, based on July management accountsQ2 FY24
India overcapacity correctionMarket to correct from current sluggishness~6 months

Key Metrics

MetricQ1 FY24
Consolidated revenueDown 19% YoY, combination of 7.5% volume dip, margin dip, and raw material price correction
Consolidated EBITDA margin9.3%, compared to peer range of 4.5% to 9%
Standalone EBITDA margin12.3%; excluding ~₹18 Cr forex loss, ~13.5%
Net loss₹416 Cr, driven by ₹382 Cr exceptional forex loss from Nigeria
Exceptional forex loss (Nigeria)₹382 Cr, due to 62% devaluation of Naira (₦460 to ₦750 per USD)
Normal forex fluctuation loss~₹18 Cr, booked at EBITDA level
Net debt~₹4,400 Cr, almost same as previous quarter
Packaging films sales volume+0.5% QoQ, maintained positive; overall sale volume down 7.5% YoY
Holographic films volume growth28% YoY increase
Aseptic packaging capacity utilization~120% of 700 crore packs capacity
Aseptic packaging export revenue~₹200 Cr per quarter, touching close to this run-rate
Overall export revenue~₹400 Cr, highest ever in a quarter
Dharwad plant capacity utilization~77%, commissioned March 31, 2023; contributed ~22% volume increase in India packaging films
America plant capacity utilization100%
Mexico plant capacity utilization87%
Aseptic capacity debottlenecking capex~₹100 Cr (₹50-60 Cr equipment, ₹40-50 Cr storage), operational next fiscal
India backward integration capex (Panipat)~₹150 Cr, expected operational by end of fiscal
Egypt backward integration capex~$60 million (total plant cost ~$71 million), operational 6-8 months after Panipat
Aseptic margin profileHigh teens
Normal times EBITDA margin (historical)17% to 19%
Combined EBITDA margin target12% to 13%, targeted by Q4 FY24 run-rate