Ugro Capital Ltd Q4 FY2023 Concall Summary

Source transcript PDF: https://www.stockscans.in/document/v0fep6xwj41vfb84irkquzps.pdf

Key Takeaways


Growth & Scale

Shachindra Nath: "I think our MOAT is that what Bajaj was able to do in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, post Global Financial Crisis and what we have been able to create post-COVID crisis is exactly same. So, our MOAT is that when it comes to the MSME financing in India, we have a five year of head start..."

Profitability & Operating Efficiency

Shachindra Nath: "So, think of somebody making a small banquet hall then that goes to full capacity, then they make another banquet hall and then make a third banquet hall. ... So UGRO has been designed and built like that."

Asset Quality & Underwriting

Anuj Pandey: "...we don't foresee the gross NPAs for lifetime to go above 3% to 3.5%."

Product & Platform Strategy

Shachindra Nath: "Every supply chain financing or a dealer or a retailer is a customer where in 12 months to 18 months time, I would be able to cross-sell a machine. I'll be able to cross-sell a rooftop solar. I will be able to cross-sell a secured loan, so on and so forth."

Funding & Liability Management

Shachindra Nath: "So, there are entities which may be much younger, five years, six years, we have a cost of borrowing which reflects the cost of borrowing of who their parent is. Obviously, they have a disproportionate advantage vis a vis us, but actually they are our partners, most of them. All those such entities are actually doing business with us, so that shows our capability."

Guidance & Commitments

CommitmentSpecificsTimeline
AUM target₹10,000 croresFY24 end
Disbursement targetClose to ₹6,400 croresFY24 full year
Cost-to-income ratio~47%Within a year
ROA target3.1%FY24 full year
ROE target~10%FY24 full year
Off-book mixCloser to 47% off-book, 53% on-bookFY24
Off-book mix50-50FY25
Capital adequacy floorNot below current levelFull FY24
Branch expansionOnly ~20 incremental micro-enterprise branchesFY24
Co-lending partner additionsAt least 2–3 private sector banks addedOver a period of this and next quarter
Next equity roundGrowth capital raiseMiddle of next year (FY25)
Desired ROEHigh teensBy end of 2025 or so
Aspirational AUM₹20,000-plus crores, broadly on trackFY25, subject to macros and liability stability
Data disclosureAdd average tenure alongside ticket size and ROI in future disclosuresNext reporting period

Key Metrics

MetricQ4 FY23
AUM₹6,000+ cr, growth of ~105% YoY
Gross disbursements (FY23)₹7,200 cr vs ₹3,138 cr in FY22
Total income (FY23)₹683 cr, +119% YoY
Total net income (FY23)₹390 cr, +123% YoY
Profit before tax (FY23)₹83 cr vs ₹20 cr in FY22
Profit after tax (FY23)₹39 cr vs ₹14 cr in FY22; adjusted PAT ₹60 cr after ₹20.6 cr one-time DTA write-off
ROTA (FY23)1.1%; adjusted for DTA write-off would have been 1.7% vs 0.6% in FY22
Cost-to-income ratio~56% exit in Q4 FY23, down from ~72% in FY22
Gross NPA as % of Total AUM1.6%, down from 2.0%
Net NPA0.9%, down from 1.6%
Provision coverage ratio48%, up from 26%
Borrowing cost10.57%, +7 bps QoQ; +27 bps for full year vs 225 bps broader market increase
Capital adequacy~20% as of Mar 31, 2023; pro forma ~30% including ₹340 cr raise in Apr-May
Off-book AUM proportion40% off-book, 60% on-book
Net disbursements (Q4 FY23)₹1,400+ cr
FY24 AUM guidance₹10,000 cr target, with ROA of 3.1% and ROE of ~10%
FY24 disbursement guidance~₹6,400 cr planned
Stage 1 assets96.1%; 30+ DPD in range of 3.8% to 3.9%
Secured portfolio share70% of total portfolio
Intermediated origination share56% of overall disbursements
Live customers48,000
Co-lending and co-origination partners10 partners
Lenders on board66 lenders